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TOF - 21 Jan 2007 05:37 GMT
I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?

TOF
Archie Valparaiso - 21 Jan 2007 15:43 GMT
>I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
>leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?

I know it's cheating but "ousting", "defenestration" and simply
"removal" all work.

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Arcadian Rises - 21 Jan 2007 18:18 GMT
> >I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
> >leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?I know it's cheating but "ousting", "defenestration" and simply
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>
> (Me? I blame the weather.)
Arcadian Rises - 21 Jan 2007 18:27 GMT
> >I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
> >leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?I know it's cheating but "ousting", "defenestration" and simply
> "removal" all work.

Right, but I believe the OP was looking for a derivative of "depose",
something like "deposit", "depository" or "deposition", which was
already mentioned. Luckily, the word "deposal" came up.
TOF - 22 Jan 2007 00:20 GMT
> > >I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
> > >leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?I know it's cheating but "ousting", "defenestration" and simply
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> something like "deposit", "depository" or "deposition", which was
> already mentioned. Luckily, the word "deposal" came up.

I thought later that perhaps the closest to a derivative would have
been "deposing" as in

"Following the deposing of Thaksin ..."

TOF
CDB - 21 Jan 2007 16:04 GMT
> I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of
> "deposing a leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any
> ideas?

Overthrow, toppling, ouster, dumping?
Frances Kemmish - 21 Jan 2007 16:11 GMT
> I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
> leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?

What about "deposal"?

Fran
Marius Hancu - 21 Jan 2007 17:49 GMT
> What about "deposal"?

Indeed.
However, it seems mainly related to crowned heads:

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de?pos?al

Function: noun

: the act of deposing or the process of being deposed especially from a
throne <the deposal of James II and the ascension of William of Orange
-- Frank Thilly>

http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com
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Marius Hancu
Prai Jei - 21 Jan 2007 16:24 GMT
TOF (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
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> I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
> leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?
>
> TOF

Coup

Revolution

Regime change
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Turenne - 21 Jan 2007 22:20 GMT
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Archie Valparaiso wrote:

>I know it's cheating but "ousting", "defenestration" and simply
>"removal" all work.

I'm not sure that defenestration applies unless the method of deposal
was to throw the deposee out of a window.

Richard Lichten
Arcadian Rises - 21 Jan 2007 22:33 GMT
> > TOF (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
> > <1169357850.759597.149...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
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> >"removal" all work.I'm not sure that defenestration applies unless the method of deposal
> was to throw the deposee out of a window.

And speaking of defenestration, can I say:

"One of my new year's resolution is to defenestrate a bad habit" ?
the Omrud - 21 Jan 2007 22:37 GMT
Arcadianrises@aol.com had it:

> > Archie Valparaiso wrote:
> > >I know it's cheating but "ousting", "defenestration" and simply
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> "One of my new year's resolution is to defenestrate a bad habit" ?

You can say whatever you please.  But defenestration hasn't really
reached a stage where it can be used figuratively.

Many years ago I was working in a large company where I gained a
reputation for knowing a lot of obscure words.  One day the phone
rang and a person from an office down the corridor asked "Do you know
what defenestration is?".  I started: "In 1605 the town council of
Prague was meeting to discuss Bohemian dissidents ..." at which point
I could hear my caller announcing to his office, "He knows it!".

The thing is, it wasn't that uncommon a word at university.  
Something oft threatened but never carried out.

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Turenne - 21 Jan 2007 22:52 GMT
> Arcadianrises@aol.com had it:
>
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> The thing is, it wasn't that uncommon a word at university.
> Something oft threatened but never carried out.

What; like debagging?

Richard L
the Omrud - 22 Jan 2007 08:09 GMT
richard.lichten1@virgin.net had it:

> > Arcadianrises@aol.com had it:
> >
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>
> What; like debagging?

Hardly.  Debagging was perfectly real, although I didn't exactly move
in circles where it was practiced.

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Robert Bannister - 22 Jan 2007 22:56 GMT
> Hardly.  Debagging was perfectly real, although I didn't exactly move
> in circles where it was practiced.

Did you work for Microsoft? Oh, sorry, wrong word.
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the Omrud - 22 Jan 2007 22:59 GMT
robban@it.net.au had it:

> > Hardly.  Debagging was perfectly real, although I didn't exactly move
> > in circles where it was practiced.
>
> Did you work for Microsoft? Oh, sorry, wrong word.

No, more's the pity.  If I'd started at Microsoft in Manchester in
1979 when I left university, I'd have made a considerable packet from
share options.

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Robin Bignall - 22 Jan 2007 23:28 GMT
>robban@it.net.au had it:
>
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>1979 when I left university, I'd have made a considerable packet from
>share options.

Maybe if you'd had vista then...
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Peter Duncanson - 23 Jan 2007 00:58 GMT
>>robban@it.net.au had it:
>>
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>
>Maybe if you'd had vista then...

He couldn't see that far ahead. VistaVision had pretty much faded
away.

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R H Draney - 22 Jan 2007 03:54 GMT
the Omrud filted:

>You can say whatever you please.  But defenestration hasn't really
>reached a stage where it can be used figuratively.

"Defenestration" may now mean "converting to Linux"....r

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Skitt - 21 Jan 2007 22:54 GMT
 
> And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
>
> "One of my new year's resolution is to defenestrate a bad habit" ?

Well, if you are a nun, maybe.
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Arcadian Rises - 21 Jan 2007 23:07 GMT
> > And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
>
> > "One of my new year's resolution is to defenestrate a bad habit" ?Well, if you are a nun, maybe.
> --

el-oh-el!

I'm having a vision with nuns defenestrating their old clothing.

No, I'm not a nun, and I only defenestrate confetti.
LFS - 21 Jan 2007 23:10 GMT
>>>And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
>>
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>
> No, I'm not a nun, and I only defenestrate confetti.

That conjures up almost as odd a picture as Skitt's nuns. Do you live
above a place where weddings take place?

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Arcadian Rises - 22 Jan 2007 01:16 GMT
> >>>And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
> >>
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>
> That conjures up almost as odd a picture as Skitt's nuns.

I've never done it alone (i.e. all by myself), but in concert with
other neighbors from their respective windows.

> Do you live
> above a place where weddings take place?

No, but from our office we defenestrated confetti during a parade
honoring the Olympic athletes. Needless to say, when there are no
parades, of course I curb my urge to defenestrate confetti. But once in
a while I used to defenestrate cigarette butts from smoke-free (ergo
ashtrayless) offices.
Peter Moylan - 22 Jan 2007 00:50 GMT
> And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
>
> "One of my new year's resolution is to defenestrate a bad habit" ?

Depending on what the habit is, that could be fascinating for the onlookers.

About ten years ago I resolved not to make New Year's resolutions. I'm
pleased to report that I've not yet resiled from that position.

It's not like smoking, drinking, and associating with loose women. I'll
probably take them up again once I've been told that I have only a year
to live.

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Arcadian Rises - 22 Jan 2007 01:24 GMT
> > And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
> >
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> About ten years ago I resolved not to make New Year's resolutions. I'm
> pleased to report that I've not yet resiled from that position.

I've just done it this year, but without making a formal resolution not
to resolve, so I guess it's unofficial. I just forgot to make the usual
list of complaints and grievances.

Another negative resolution I made 10 years ago was not to read the NY
Review of Books and to read actual books instead. I succeeded, more or
less, to observe the first part.
Richard Maurer - 22 Jan 2007 01:21 GMT
Andrea A Carisi wrote:
   And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
   "One of my new year's resolution is
   to defenestrate a bad habit" ?

Transparency in coverment is a good thing.

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Arcadian Rises - 22 Jan 2007 01:33 GMT
> Andrea A Carisi wrote:
>     And speaking of defenestration, can I say:
>     "One of my new year's resolution is
>     to defenestrate a bad habit" ?
>
> Transparency in coverment is a good thing.

I am not a streepteuse nun.
And I'm not Andrea A. Carisi.

Why am I answering this message?
Vinny Burgoo - 23 Jan 2007 12:02 GMT
In alt.usage.english, Arcadian Rises wrote:

>I am not a streepteuse nun.
>And I'm not Andrea A. Carisi.
>
>Why am I answering this message?

Because deep down you really want to be a streepteuse nun.

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TOF - 22 Jan 2007 00:22 GMT
> TOF (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
> <1169357850.759597.149220@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
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>
> Regime change

\

There's also "ouster", but I was seeking something based on "depose".

TOF
Prai Jei - 23 Jan 2007 20:54 GMT
TOF (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
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> I was wondering what noun you'd use to describe the act of "deposing a
> leader". "Deposition" doesn't sound quite right. Any ideas?
>
> TOF

"Deposition" suggests the legal submission or registration of a formal
document, rather than anything to do with regime change.
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Mike Lyle - 23 Jan 2007 20:59 GMT
> TOF (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
> <1169357850.759597.149220@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:
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> "Deposition" suggests the legal submission or registration of a formal
> document, rather than anything to do with regime change.

Well, you could try "deposal" and "deposure", and I don't think anybody
could call you wrong; but it's gotta be "deposition" in current English,
surely?

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