> Quite, but it was a serious point. If the production of the milk is
> done by the farmers, then it's the finished product which is referred
> to. The cow "produces" raw milk. The farmers can "produce" raw
> milk, pasteurised milk or cheese. It's a different meaning of
> "produce".

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>> Quite, but it was a serious point. If the production of the milk
>> is done by the farmers, then it's the finished product which is
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>
> This is the way of the world, and perhaps rightly so.
The alternative, presumably, being that the farmer charges the cow for
room and board. Personally, I've never seen a cow give milk to
anybody.

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Roland Hutchinson - 23 Jan 2007 03:35 GMT
>>> Quite, but it was a serious point. If the production of the milk
>>> is done by the farmers, then it's the finished product which is
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> The alternative, presumably, being that the farmer charges the cow for
> room and board.
You've been reading the Libertarian newsgroups again, haven't you?

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Mike Lyle - 23 Jan 2007 12:52 GMT
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>> Just so. The cow gives us milk. The farmer charges us for it.
>>
>> This is the way of the world, and perhaps rightly so.
>
> The alternative, presumably, being that the farmer charges the cow for
> room and board.
Well, to be serious, farmers aren't cruel people, but dairy cows can pay
a heavy price for their jobs. It doesn't necessarily make a big
difference, but I always try to buy organic or "welfare" dairy products.
> Personally, I've never seen a cow give milk to
> anybody.
They queue up to give it away, and soon complain if milking's late!

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