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Using "leaving out" to mean departing

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mailbox@cpacker.org - 23 Jan 2007 12:18 GMT
My wife uses the phrase "leaving out"
to mean departing. Since she's
African-American, and every occurrence
I've heard since has been uttered by
a black person -- of any educational
level -- I conclude that it's
usage of African-American origin that
hasn't spread into American English
generally. Do I guess correctly?
And is it possibly local even to
black speakers in the Mid-Atlantic
region?

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cybercypher - 23 Jan 2007 13:03 GMT
> My wife uses the phrase "leaving out"
> to mean departing. Since she's
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> black speakers in the Mid-Atlantic
> region?

Never heard the phrase before, except when it means "omitting".

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Adrian Bailey - 23 Jan 2007 21:01 GMT
> My wife uses the phrase "leaving out"
> to mean departing. Since she's
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> black speakers in the Mid-Atlantic
> region?

Did a bit of googling; came up with...
"what time you leaving out" MD
"leaving out at 7" AR
"leaving out at 8" PA, OK
etc.

So, quite widespread, and only some of the writers are black.

Adrian
Wayne Brown - 24 Jan 2007 13:01 GMT
Charles Packer wrote:

> My wife uses the phrase "leaving out"
> to mean departing. Since she's
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> black speakers in the Mid-Atlantic
> region?

This is heard in some dialects in the Appalachian region of the
United States, from both black and white dialect speakers. "I've
gotta leave out early tomorrow mornin'" and "I've gotta leave
out the house early tomorrow mornin'."

Regards, ----- WB.
mailbox@cpacker.org - 24 Jan 2007 21:38 GMT
> Charles Packerwrote:
> > My wife uses the phrase "leaving out"
> > to mean departing. Since she's

>This is heard in some dialects in the Appalachian region of the
> United States, from both black and white dialect speakers. "I've
> gotta leave out early tomorrow mornin'" and "I've gotta leave
> out the house early tomorrow mornin'."

Interesting...her mother is from West Virginia. Thanks.

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Wayne Brown - 25 Jan 2007 11:33 GMT
Charles Packer wrote:

>> > My wife uses the phrase "leaving out"
>> > to mean departing. [...]

Wayne Brown answered:

>>This is heard in some dialects in the Appalachian region of
>> the United States, from both black and white dialect
>> speakers. "I've gotta leave out early tomorrow mornin'" and
>> "I've gotta leave out the house early tomorrow mornin'."

Charles Packer said:

> Interesting...her mother is from West Virginia. Thanks.

West Virginia has several different main dialects, which have
been dying out in their original forms after native-born
inhabitants left the poverty-stricken state by the hundreds of
thousands, beginning in the 1950s, in search of work in other
parts of the United States. The dialect feature you referred to
was once common in the southern half of the state, between
Charleston and the Kentucky state line, and south of Huntington,
starting roughly at about Fort Gay and continuing all along the
Big Sandy and Tug River Fork through Crum and Kermit past
Williamson and Matewan to the Virginia state line as well as
north of the two rivers, in towns and villages scattered among
the Appalachian mountains. Blacks, however, were never strongly
represented in the area. Before the Civil War, there were few
slaves in that extremely mountainous part of what was then
Virginia with little farming and little need for slave labor.
When West Virginia became independent of Virginia and was
granted statehood in 1863, few blacks were in the state, and few
migrated there, although strict racial segregation was in place
for the few who were there. Huntington had a segregated black
community, but the city dialect was not typical of the southern
rural variations to be heard farther down the road, to the
southeast. The largest black community in the midst of a real
dialect area was probably in Williamson. The dialect words and
phrases coined by blacks were imaginative, catchy, often
humorous, even hilarious, and were often adopted by whites
although, despite a number of shared features like the usage in
your question, the various white dialects, which predominated in
the state, differed distinctly from the black ones in
pronunciation, vocabulary, grammar and syntax.

Regards, ----- WB.
mailbox@cpacker.org - 26 Jan 2007 12:40 GMT
> parts of the United States. The dialect feature you referred to
> was once common in the southern half of the state, between
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> north of the two rivers, in towns and villages scattered among
> the Appalachian mountains.

That's close enough to convince me! My wife's mother was born in
Hinton, which is about the same latitude as Williamson and about 60
miles east. Her family moved to Charleston and that's where she went to
school.

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