Gay sheep?
|
|
Thread rating:  |
Algun Desconocido - 25 Jan 2007 13:30 GMT During the many years I've been intermittently following alt.usage.english, I've occasionally seen the word 'sheep' used in ways that seemed to be more-or-less-veiled allusions to abnormal sexual practices. Whether or not my inference is correct, I wonder if AUE regulars would find a discussion of gay sheep in today's Times (New York) significant. See http://preview.tinyurl.com/yw6gcd .
cybercypher - 25 Jan 2007 13:42 GMT > During the many years I've been intermittently following > alt.usage.english, I've occasionally seen the word 'sheep' > used in ways that seemed to be more-or-less-veiled allusions > to abnormal sexual practices. We usually don't veil our comments about sheep-f.ckers; we come right out and say it. Only the squeamish and sheepish use asterisks and oblique references to beastiality, but they aren't what we refer to as RRs (respected regulars) here.
> Whether or not my inference > is correct, I wonder if AUE regulars would find a discussion > of gay sheep in today's Times (New York) significant. See > http://preview.tinyurl.com/yw6gcd . I thinnk it's significant, but not because it's about sheep or homosexuality. It's significant because of the way fanatic ideologues (PETA, for example: "PETA began an e-mail campaign that the universities say resulted in 20,000 protests, some with language like 'you are a worthless animal killer and you should be shot,' 'I hope you burn in hell' and 'please, die.'") twist the meanings of words, and because it provides concrete evidence that language and language usage matters. It's too bad that it also provides evidence of the willingness of ignorant idiots to rant and rave about topics they do not understand and about which they are defensive at best and paranoid at worst:
******************************************************************** "The news media storm reached its zenith last month, when The Sunday Times in London published an article under the headline 'Science Told: Hands Off Gay Sheep.' It asserted, incorrectly, that Dr. Roselli had worked successfully to 'cure' homosexual rams with hormone treatments, and added that 'critics fear' that the research 'could pave the way for breeding out homosexuality in humans.'
"Martina Navratilova, the tennis star who is both openly gay and a PETA ally, wrote in an open letter that the research 'can only be surmised as an attempt to develop a prenatal treatment' for sexual conditions. ... "'The more we play God or try to improve on Mother Nature, the more damage we are doing with all kinds of experiments that either have already turned or will turn into nightmares,' she [Navratilova] wrote in an e-mail reply to a reporter’s query. 'How in the world could straight or gay sheep help humanity?'
"In an interview, Shalin Gala, a PETA representative working on the sheep campaign, said controlling or altering sexual orientation was a 'natural implication' of the work of Dr. Roselli and his colleagues. Mr. Gala, who asked that he be identified as openly gay, cited the news release for a 2004 paper in the journal Endocrinology that showed differences in brain structure between homosexual and heterosexual sheep.
"The release quoted Dr. Roselli as saying that the research 'also has broader implications for understanding the development and control of sexual motivation and mate selection across mammalian species, including humans.'
"Mr. Newman, who wrote the release, said the word 'control' was used in the scientific sense of understanding the body’s internal controls, not in the sense of trying to control sexual orientation. 'It's discouraging that PETA can pick one word, try to add weight to it or shift its meaning to suggest that you are doing something that you clearly are not,' he said."
Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company ********************************************************************
 Signature Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan. "It has come to my attention that my opinions are not universally shared." Scott Adams, The Dilbert Blog, 23 Jan 2007; http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/ teranews charges a one-time US$3.95 setup fee
-- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
HVS - 25 Jan 2007 18:13 GMT On 25 Jan 2007, cybercypher wrote
> We usually don't veil our comments about sheep-f.ckers; we come > right out and say it. Only the squeamish and sheepish use > asterisks and oblique references to beastiality, ObAue: typo, or error?
 Signature Cheers, Harvey
Canadian and British English, indiscriminately mixed For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van
cybercypher - 25 Jan 2007 23:28 GMT > On 25 Jan 2007, cybercypher wrote > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ObAue: typo, or error? According to the "zoophilia" article on Wikipedia.com, "A separate term, bestiality (more common in mainstream usage and frequently but incorrectly seen as a synonym; often misspelled as 'beastiality')".
I checked Google and the "bestiality":"beastiality" ratio is a mere 1.2:1 (3.6 million to 3 million hits).
And, now, to the point: error, the worstiality, of course.
 Signature Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan. "It has come to my attention that my opinions are not universally shared." Scott Adams, The Dilbert Blog, 23 Jan 2007; http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/ teranews charges a one-time US$3.95 setup fee
-- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Joe Fineman - 26 Jan 2007 01:28 GMT > During the many years I've been intermittently following > alt.usage.english, I've occasionally seen the word 'sheep' used in > ways that seemed to be more-or-less-veiled allusions to abnormal > sexual practices. Variously ascribed to Mormons, rockclimbers, soldiers of the Black Watch regiment, etc., etc. In the Vulgarian Digest, Spring 1970, we read
Dear Appie: Is it best to approach a sheep from behind, or to roll it over and lay on top? Deprived Dear Depraved: Is the sheep male or female? And for that matter are you male or female?
 Signature --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net
||: Nothing human ever works the way it is supposed to. :|| Matthew Huntbach - 26 Jan 2007 10:07 GMT >> During the many years I've been intermittently following >> alt.usage.english, I've occasionally seen the word 'sheep' used in >> ways that seemed to be more-or-less-veiled allusions to abnormal >> sexual practices.
> Variously ascribed to Mormons, rockclimbers, soldiers of the Black > Watch regiment, etc., etc. It's a standard put-down of rural people by city dwellers, the suggestion that lacking the bright lights and opportunities of the city they must be suffering extreme sexual frustration and so take it out in some way, such as incest or bestiality.
Matthew Huntbach
Peter Moylan - 26 Jan 2007 12:29 GMT >>> During the many years I've been intermittently following >>> alt.usage.english, I've occasionally seen the word 'sheep' used [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > city they must be suffering extreme sexual frustration and so take it > out in some way, such as incest or bestiality. Incest is a slightly different case. In a small community the pool of available marriage partners is so small that the occasional marriage between first cousins is almost inevitable. Sometimes it even happens without the partners being aware that they are related. Of course, the big-city jokes go further and suggest much more extreme forms of inbreeding.
An obvious advantage of bestiality is that there are fewer worries about the genetic health of the offspring.
 Signature Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet address could disappear at any time.
Robert Bannister - 27 Jan 2007 00:40 GMT >>> During the many years I've been intermittently following >>> alt.usage.english, I've occasionally seen the word 'sheep' used in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > be suffering extreme sexual frustration and so take it out in some way, > such as incest or bestiality. A friend of mine was a magistrate for some time in rural Wales. It is not a city-dweller myth.
 Signature Rob Bannister
Joe Fineman - 27 Jan 2007 01:17 GMT > A friend of mine was a magistrate for some time in rural Wales. It > is not a city-dweller myth. An acquaintance of mine, during his youth in rural Pennsylvania, held a sheep still while an acquaintance of his had his way with it. They were both greatly relieved when the next lamb bore no resemblance to him.
 Signature --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net
||: Single girl, single girl, she goes to the store and buys. :|| ||: Married girl, married girl, she rocks the cradle and cries. :|| Pat Durkin - 27 Jan 2007 08:06 GMT >> A friend of mine was a magistrate for some time in rural Wales. It >> is not a city-dweller myth. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > were both greatly relieved when the next lamb bore no resemblance to > him. Some news story three or four years ago--a fella got caught in a pumpkin patch, having it off with the calabazas.
I never heard any more about it, but the mystery comes to plague me in the wee hours. Who called the police? Was the owner of the patch saving those seductive melons for himself? What is the proper season for pumpin pumpkins? How much does a license cost?
Maria - 27 Jan 2007 18:51 GMT >> An acquaintance of mine, during his youth in rural Pennsylvania, held >> a sheep still while an acquaintance of his had his way with it. They [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > saving those seductive melons for himself? What is the proper season > for pumpin pumpkins? How much does a license cost? More to the point: How much would the pumpkin cost? If someone wants to enjoy the sexual favors of a gourd, one ought to pay the gourd or the gourd's, uh, pimp.
(I did enjoy your questions, though.)
 Signature Maria
Hatunen - 27 Jan 2007 20:36 GMT >>> An acquaintance of mine, during his youth in rural Pennsylvania, held >>> a sheep still while an acquaintance of his had his way with it. They [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >enjoy the sexual favors of a gourd, one ought to pay the gourd or the >gourd's, uh, pimp. You mean its gourdian, don't you?
 Signature ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Pat Durkin - 27 Jan 2007 20:57 GMT >>>> An acquaintance of mine, during his youth in rural Pennsylvania, >>>> held [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > You mean its gourdian, don't you? Gourd a'mighty, Charlie Brown. Was that _you _?
cybercypher - 28 Jan 2007 05:22 GMT > "Maria" <marian.c-b@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > You mean its gourdian, don't you? Something's just knot right here.
 Signature Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor Native speaker of American English; posting from Taiwan. "It has come to my attention that my opinions are not universally shared." Scott Adams, The Dilbert Blog, 23 Jan 2007; http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/ teranews charges a one-time US$3.95 setup fee
-- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Peter Moylan - 28 Jan 2007 01:59 GMT >>> An acquaintance of mine, during his youth in rural Pennsylvania, >>> held a sheep still while an acquaintance of his had his way with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > (I did enjoy your questions, though.) If it comes to that, why not buy one - pumpkins are cheap - and take it home? Maybe that's ruled out if you have a thing about virginity, or if part of the thrill is the risk of getting caught.
Once upon a time I read an entire long article about sex with vegetables. Apparently potatoes score very highly, but you have to be very finicky about whittling out a hole of the correct size. Melons are disappointing; too squishy, especially on a second encounter. For women, it's important to trim your vegetables so that they have rounded ends.
 Signature Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet address could disappear at any time.
Oleg Lego - 28 Jan 2007 02:52 GMT The Peter Moylan entity posted thusly:
>>>> An acquaintance of mine, during his youth in rural Pennsylvania, >>>> held a sheep still while an acquaintance of his had his way with [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >disappointing; too squishy, especially on a second encounter. For women, >it's important to trim your vegetables so that they have rounded ends. Gives me a whole new perspective on kumquats.
R H Draney - 28 Jan 2007 07:26 GMT Peter Moylan filted:
>Once upon a time I read an entire long article about sex with >vegetables. Apparently potatoes score very highly, but you have to be >very finicky about whittling out a hole of the correct size. Melons are >disappointing; too squishy, especially on a second encounter. For women, >it's important to trim your vegetables so that they have rounded ends. Proposed: that no person of either sex has, at any time in recorded history, tried to have sex with a lima bean....r
 Signature "You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!"
LaReina del Perros - 27 Jan 2007 21:43 GMT >Some news story three or four years ago--a fella got caught in a pumpkin >patch, having it off with the calabazas. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >saving those seductive melons for himself? What is the proper season >for pumpin pumpkins? How much does a license cost? All I can think of is how I discovered when we grew pumpkins in our backyard last year that all parts of the plant, including the fruit, are covered with little stickers. Had to wear thick gloves to handle them if I wanted to avoid pain.
Mark Brader - 27 Jan 2007 23:42 GMT > All I can think of is how I discovered when we grew pumpkins in our > backyard last year that all parts of the plant, including the fruit, > are covered with little stickers. What, how many labels does the manufacturer need to put on them?
> Had to wear thick gloves to handle them if I wanted to avoid pain. Oh, *that* kind of sticker!
Maybe the manufacturer should have to put on a warning sticker so you'd know you need to do that.
 Signature Mark Brader, Toronto | "Men! Give them enough rope and they'll dig msb@vex.net | their own grave." -- EARTH GIRLS ARE EASY
Hatunen - 28 Jan 2007 19:05 GMT >> All I can think of is how I discovered when we grew pumpkins in our >> backyard last year that all parts of the plant, including the fruit, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Maybe the manufacturer should have to put on a warning sticker so >you'd know you need to do that. Where would the manufacturer put it?
 Signature ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Skitt - 28 Jan 2007 20:07 GMT
>>> All I can think of is how I discovered when we grew pumpkins in our >>> backyard last year that all parts of the plant, including the fruit, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Where would the manufacturer put it? On one of the stickers, of course.
 Signature Skitt (in Hayward, California) http://www.geocities.com/opus731/
|
|
|