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Which one of these is proper English?

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peek^ - 29 Jan 2007 18:11 GMT
Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news letter.  English
is not my first language, so I need some advice which one of the bellow is
right?

Sign up to our news letter to receive latest headlines about new products,
services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free, and you can
unsubscribe anytime.

Sign up to our news letter to receive latest headlines about new products,
services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free, and you can
unsubscribe at anytime.
Don Phillipson - 29 Jan 2007 18:23 GMT
> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news letter.  English
> is not my first language, so I need some advice which one of the bellow is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free, and you can
> unsubscribe at anytime.

1.  Preposition:  we do not sign up TO something,
we sign up FOR something.
2.  Word:  English has no word ANYTIME.  We use
the phrases ANY TIME and AT ANY TIME indifferently.

But presenting a web page in perfect English can by
itself create excessive expectations, if your English is in fact
less than perfect.   It may be prudent to leave your text as
you first drafted it.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

peek^ - 29 Jan 2007 18:40 GMT
> 1.  Preposition:  we do not sign up TO something,
> we sign up FOR something.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> less than perfect.   It may be prudent to leave your text as
> you first drafted it.

How's this?

Sign up to our news letter to receive latest headlines about new products,
services, software, and technology.  We are 100% spam free, and you can
unsubscribe at any time.
Tony Cooper - 29 Jan 2007 18:51 GMT
>> 1.  Preposition:  we do not sign up TO something,
>> we sign up FOR something.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>services, software, and technology.  We are 100% spam free, and you can
>unsubscribe at any time.

While "news letter" is not incorrect, "newsletter" is the commonly
used term.

We sign up "to receive" a newsletter, or we sign up "for" a
newsletter.

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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

contrex - 29 Jan 2007 20:07 GMT
> >> 1.  Preposition:  we do not sign up TO something,
> >> we sign up FOR something.

The phrase "sign up to", (as a variant of "sign up for") meaning
"subscribe to" (physically or metaphorically) is not unknown, even if
it is frowned upon by purists. "I'm not signing up to that", meaning
"I'm not associating my name with those views" is quite common in the
UK.
Skitt - 29 Jan 2007 20:37 GMT
>> 1.  Preposition:  we do not sign up TO something,
>> we sign up FOR something.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> products, services, software, and technology.  We are 100% spam free,
> and you can unsubscribe at any time.

Does the newsletter (one word) provide only headlines?  Is there no further
information?  That does not seem to be right.

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Skitt
Like you say... a idea what unclips every blind
flask of unspired geraniums what ever I is had.
                            --Churchy La Femme

Maria - 29 Jan 2007 19:22 GMT
Don Phillipson wrote, in part:

> 2.  Word:  English has no word ANYTIME.  We use
> the phrases ANY TIME and AT ANY TIME indifferently.

Just for the record:

From Merriam-Webster Online (an American dictionary):

anytime
One entry found for anytime.

Main Entry: any·time
Pronunciation: 'e-nE-"tIm
Function: adverb
: at any time whatever

(That's the total entry.)

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AUE: http://www.familyhomefront.net/BirthdaysEtcAUE.html
OR:   http://tinyurl.com/j4j8n
There's only one 'n' in my email address, and it's not in my first name.
(The email address I use in this newsgroup is munged.)

Robert Lieblich - 29 Jan 2007 23:07 GMT
> Don Phillipson wrote, in part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> (That's the total entry.)

Yabbut, if "anytime" equals "at any time whatever," then "at anytime"
equals "at at any time whatever."  That ain't right, Toots.

Or, if you prefer, the object of a preposition isn't an adverb.

But fear not -- you're on record.

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Bob Lieblich
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Maria - 30 Jan 2007 00:22 GMT
>> Don Phillipson wrote, in part:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> Function: adverb
>> at any time whatever*

>> (That's the total entry.)

*attribution [was >>>] corrected; my error originally. I have no idea
how I did that.

> Yabbut, if "anytime" equals "at any time whatever," then "at anytime"
> equals "at at any time whatever."  That ain't right, Toots.
>
> Or, if you prefer, the object of a preposition isn't an adverb.

But "at any time whatever" is the definition for "anytime," not for "at
anytime." Plus, I would not say or write "at anytime"; I'd say or write
"at any time."

> But fear not -- you're on record.

Yes. Isn't Usenet marvelous?

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Maria
http://www.familyhomefront.net/
AUE: http://www.familyhomefront.net/BirthdaysEtcAUE.html
OR:   http://tinyurl.com/j4j8n
There's only one 'n' in my email address, and it's not in my first name.
(The email address I use in this newsgroup is munged.)

rzed - 29 Jan 2007 19:39 GMT
>> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news
>> letter.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> 2.  Word:  English has no word ANYTIME.  We use
> the phrases ANY TIME and AT ANY TIME indifferently.

American English has had "anytime" since the late 1700's. The
first definition in my Random House Webster's Unabridged
Dictionary is "at any time; regardless of hour, date, etc.;
whenever". So in Yankland, "at anytime" would not be correct, but
"anytime" would be.

> But presenting a web page in perfect English can by
> itself create excessive expectations, if your English is in fact
> less than perfect.   It may be prudent to leave your text as
> you first drafted it.

Prudent indeed.

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rzed

John Kane - 29 Jan 2007 21:47 GMT
> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news letter.  English
> is not my first language, so I need some advice which one of the bellow is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free, and you can
> unsubscribe at anytime.

the latest headlines.
Peacenik - 30 Jan 2007 00:46 GMT
> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news letter.  English
> is not my first language, so I need some advice which one of the bellow is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free, and you can
> unsubscribe at anytime.

"newsletter" is generally one word.

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John Doherty - 30 Jan 2007 04:08 GMT
> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news letter. 
> English is not my first language, so I need some advice which one of
> the bellow is right?

> Sign up to our news letter to receive latest headlines about new
> products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free,
> and you can unsubscribe at anytime.

Neither is entirely satisfactory. Try this:

 Sign up for our newsletter to receive the latest headlines about new
 products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free
 and you can unsubscribe at any time.

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Skitt - 30 Jan 2007 17:56 GMT
>> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news letter.
>> English is not my first language, so I need some advice which one of
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>  products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam free
>  and you can unsubscribe at any time.

Yeah, but I would want more than just some headlines.  I would also put the
comma back after the "free".
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Skitt (in Hayward, California)
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John Doherty - 31 Jan 2007 04:14 GMT
>>> Im building a site where I offer users to signup for a news
>>> letter. English is not my first language, so I need some advice
>>> which one of the bellow is right?

>>> Sign up to our news letter to receive latest headlines about new
>>> products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam
>>> free, and you can unsubscribe anytime.

>>> Sign up to our news letter to receive latest headlines about new
>>> products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam
>>> free, and you can unsubscribe at anytime.

>> Neither is entirely satisfactory. Try this:

>>  Sign up for our newsletter to receive the latest headlines about
>>  new products, services, software, and technology. We are 100% spam
>>  free and you can unsubscribe at any time.

> Yeah, but I would want more than just some headlines.

Well, I wanted to get the easy stuff fixed up first.

> I would also put the comma back after the "free".

OK. I can live with it either way.

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