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what does "is one of degree" mean?

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enq - 29 Apr 2007 05:28 GMT
Hi.

Can you please help me understand what it means "one of degree"?

"...their aim is to prevent or restrict, the difference is one of
degree, the review of decisions"..

When someone says "is one of degree", what does this mean?
Ray O'Hara - 29 Apr 2007 06:19 GMT
> Hi.
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> When someone says "is one of degree", what does this mean?

A small difference. IE:the difference between restrict and prevent. one aims
to restrict and the other aims to prevent but both want to curb what ever
the sentence referes to.
Mark Brader - 29 Apr 2007 10:59 GMT
>> Can you please help me understand what it means "one of degree"?
>>
>> "...their aim is to prevent or restrict, the difference is one of
>> degree, the review of decisions"..

> A small difference.

Wrong.  It says it's a difference between two things that are both the
same kind of thing, only one is bigger, or more serious, or something
like that.  The expression is saying that preventing review is the same
sort of thing as restricting review, but stronger.
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Ray O'Hara - 29 Apr 2007 16:31 GMT
> >> Can you please help me understand what it means "one of degree"?
> >>
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> like that.  The expression is saying that preventing review is the same
> sort of thing as restricting review, but stronger.

Which is a small difference, shitstain.
Mark Brader - 29 Apr 2007 18:56 GMT
Plonk.
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TakenEvent - 29 Apr 2007 19:38 GMT
> > >> Can you please help me understand what it means "one of degree"?
> > >>
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> Which is a small difference, shitstain.

IMO, it could be a small difference or a big difference.  "Degree" means the
difference is a matter of magnitude, not a difference between fundamentally
different things.  The difference between a grenade and the MOAB is one of
degree in terms of their respective blast radii, but they both explode.
Garrett Wollman - 29 Apr 2007 06:24 GMT
>Can you please help me understand what it means "one of degree"?
>
>"...their aim is to prevent or restrict, the difference is one of
>degree, the review of decisions"..
>
>When someone says "is one of degree", what does this mean?

Nothing on its own.  The meaning is in the entire clause, "the
difference is one of degree".  It means that the alternatives
considered are really the same; they differ only in *how much* of that
one thing is to be applied.  As a rhetorical device, this is often
part of a debate where one side claims that two positions are
completely distinct, and the other side claims that they are not; the
implication is that the difference is really only theoretical.  (In
your example, it may not be possible to "prevent ... the review of
decisions", but relatively easy to "restrict" review to such an extent
that it is effectively precluded while still allowing such review *in
theory*.

Contrast "a distinction without a difference".

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Richard Maurer - 29 Apr 2007 07:50 GMT
enq wrote:
   Can you please help me understand what
   it means "one of degree"?

   "...their aim is to prevent or restrict,
   the difference is one of degree,
   the review of decisions"..

   When someone says "is one of degree",
   what does this mean?

   It means that the alternatives considered are really
   the same; they differ only in *how much* of that
   one thing is to be applied.

It is the same idea as "qualitative difference" versus
"quantitative difference".  (Degree is a chunkier or
fuzzier version of quantitative.)

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cybercypher - 29 Apr 2007 08:31 GMT
> Can you please help me understand what it means "one of degree"?
>
> "...their aim is to prevent or restrict, the difference is one of
> degree, the review of decisions"..
>
> When someone says "is one of degree", what does this mean?

It's like the joke about the woman who says no when a man asks her to
have sex with him, then he asks if she'd do it for $200,000 and she
says yes, then he asks if she'd do it for $20 and she say "What kind of
woman do you think I am?" The man replies, "We've already established
that. Now we're just haggling over the price."

The difference in degree is that $200,000 means she's a high-class call
girl, but $20 mean she's just a common prostitute. In either case she's
a whore; the only difference is one of degree.

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CDB - 29 Apr 2007 13:29 GMT
> Hi.
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> When someone says "is one of degree", what does this mean?

I agree with the posters who have answered that a difference "of
degree" implies a larger or smaller amount of the thing that is being
talked about, and not a change in the kind of thing that is being
talked about.  The word "one" is not part of the expression, but is
used to avoid repeating the word "difference": the sentence could be
written "...their aim is to prevent or restrict (the difference is *a
difference* of degree) the review of decisions...".

The substitution of "one" is a matter of style, not grammar or
meaning, but the use of parentheses instead of commas to separate the
subordinate clause from the main clause is better punctuation.  If you
don't like parentheses, you can keep the commas by changing the clause
to a phrase: "...restrict, the difference *being* one of degree, ...".
Donna Richoux - 29 Apr 2007 17:16 GMT
> Hi.
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>
> When someone says "is one of degree", what does this mean?

A common construction is "differ in degree, not kind." Amount and
quantity, not sort and nature. Some examples via Google:

    what Arendt fails to realize is that virtually all
    modern legal philosophies and codes differ from
    those of totalitarianism only in degree, not kind.

    with respect to temporal/aspectual semantics, adults differ from
    children only in degree, not kind.

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