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Discussion Groups / English Usage / July 2007Moronbiot s'en va-t-en terre
<http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> It wasn't meant to happen like this. The climate scientists told us that our winters would become wetter and our summers drier. So I can't claim that these floods were caused by climate change, Yes, you can, George! Show some backbone! or are even consistent with the models. Ah, well, you've got a point there, young fella me lad. Welcome aboard. The models are only consistent with ... well, with, with ... with the models, really. But, like the ghost of Christmas yet to come, they offer us a glimpse of the possible winter world that we will inhabit if we don't sort ourselves out. Say what? You've lost me there, my panicky Old Stoic. But never mind. You've shown enough progress for one day. Go and see Matron and tell her I said to give you some Cough Drops.  SignatureV > <http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > You've shown enough progress for one day. Go and see Matron and tell her > I said to give you some Cough Drops. Never mind rising sea-levels, which will on the whole only drown oiks; consider the real threat: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A257564 -- MIke. > <http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yes, you can, George! Show some backbone! At the risk of exposing myself, err, to accusations of name-dropping, I bumped into monsieur M at a pretty exclusive and very scary west London venue a few days ago. He is a very affable sort of chap when he's not on one of his hobby horses. Philip Eden >> <http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >west London venue a few days ago. He is a very affable sort of >chap when he's not on one of his hobby horses. If you had written "west *of* London venue" I would have asked what you and monsieur M had done to find yourselves in a "detention suite" at Heathrow airport. As it is I your description fits a mixed office and residential building with gardens, lake, small waterfall, stables, and a generously sized forecourt. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>><http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > building with gardens, lake, small waterfall, stables, and a > generously sized forecourt. What's very scary about that? I'm trying unsuccessfully to envisage a very scary venue, so I hope that Philip will explain. SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) >>>><http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > What's very scary about that? I'm trying unsuccessfully to envisage a > very scary venue, so I hope that Philip will explain. OK, OK, but only because you insist. It was the Newsnight studio. I haven't had as big an adrenalin rush for, I don't know, maybe something like 20 years. Philip > >>>At the risk of exposing myself, err, to accusations of name-dropping, > >>>I bumped into monsieur M at a pretty exclusive and very scary [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I haven't had as big an adrenalin rush for, I don't know, maybe > something like 20 years. Oh, right. Sometimes I wish important people like me ever watched television. But you realise, I hope, that _he_ is now dropping _your_ name. There must surely be a Greek word for this. -- Mike. >>>>>At the risk of exposing myself, err, to accusations of name-dropping, >>>>>I bumped into monsieur M at a pretty exclusive and very scary [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > television. But you realise, I hope, that _he_ is now dropping _your_ > name. There must surely be a Greek word for this. While we wait for you to construct said word, I'd like to point out that the thread title is very clever but has given me a passing dose of STS. It is the only song I ever remember my maternal grandmother singing and it seems an odd ditty for someone born and bred in Lithuania to know. SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) >>>>><http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >I haven't had as big an adrenalin rush for, I don't know, maybe >something like 20 years. Ah -- *that* meaning of "very scary". SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>>><http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >What's very scary about that? I'm trying unsuccessfully to envisage a >very scary venue, so I hope that Philip will explain. I saw Philip's reply, which may indeed be as very scary a west-of-London venue as our very own tunnel under the Hangar Lane Gyratory. SignatureRobin Bignall Herts, England >>>>><http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > west-of-London venue as our very own tunnel under the Hangar Lane > Gyratory. Ah, Robin, how could I forget! (I wonder what's happened to Phil C: a brief look at ucle suggests that the former regulars there have vanished.) It's been some weeks since I passed that way. You get an excellent view of the new Wembley arch as you emerge. But I don't think I'd call the tunnel a venue: doesn't the word imply people meeting? SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) >>>>>><http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >excellent view of the new Wembley arch as you emerge. But I don't think >I'd call the tunnel a venue: doesn't the word imply people meeting? I have to admit that I've never actually met anyone in that tunnel, but one can live in hopes. There are, I suppose, worse places. As to ucle, it seems to have been taken over for quite a while by people waging religious wars, and I've been marking everything as read and skipping it. SignatureRobin Bignall Herts, England > >What's very scary about that? I'm trying unsuccessfully to envisage a > >very scary venue, so I hope that Philip will explain. > I saw Philip's reply, which may indeed be as very scary a > west-of-London venue as our very own tunnel under the Hangar Lane > Gyratory. SignatureHow do (or would, if they don't) USAians pronounce "gyratory"? We have a family pronunciation for the "Hangar Lane Gyratory System" which is sort of mock-American (apologies to anyone who needs them) and renders "gyratory" as GYRE-a-TORY. Philip Eden On Jul 28, 4:40 pm, "Philip Eden" <philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom> wrote: > > >What's very scary about that? I'm trying unsuccessfully to envisage a > > >very scary venue, so I hope that Philip will explain. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (apologies to anyone who needs them) and renders > "gyratory" as GYRE-a-TORY. No apologies needed for pronouncing a word correctly. The difference seems to arse (typo left uncorrected) because you lot accent the verb "gyrate" on the second syllable and us folks accent it on the first syllable. -- Jerry Friedman > On Jul 28, 4:40 pm, "Philip Eden" <philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > accent the verb "gyrate" on the second syllable and us folks accent it > on the first syllable. Ah, but there are still a few of us over here who pronounce it the truly received way: GYRE-a-tree Philip Eden > <http://business.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2133118,00.html> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yes, you can, George! Show some backbone! ... A propos, merci pour l'air fixe. (The French probably have a word for that.) -- Jerry Friedman |
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