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Discussion Groups / English Usage / July 2007Watch out for that airplane!
John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." That's not even an eggcorn, just a malaprop. >John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary >Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." > >That's not even an eggcorn, just a malaprop. Doncha love it!  SignatureTony Cooper Orlando, FL > >John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary > >Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." > > > >That's not even an eggcorn, just a malaprop. > > Doncha love it! And it's such a shame when McLaughlin is, by his own admission, such a learned gentleman. I hope that the three people other than me who actually watch McLauglin's weekly laugh-fest are as amused as I am that the show is announced as "The American original." It postdates Agronsky & Company, which pioneered the format (and therefore has much to answer for), by at least a decade. Agronsky & Co. is still going strong, but under another name (Inside Washington) and with another moderator (Gordon Peterson). I find the Sunday morning talk shows useful background to the transaction of business (including monkey business like AUE) on the computer. Occasionally I learn something from them, but only occasionally. They had a lot of fun this morning discussing Alfredo Gonzales's apparent perjury without taking any note of this morning's NYTimes story that seems to have explained it away. From this I learned that (1) the shows are taped well in advance or (2) the moderators and participants are too busy getting ready for their bloviations to pay any attention to the actual news. >I find the Sunday morning talk shows useful background to the >transaction of business (including monkey business like AUE) on the >computer. [...] They had a lot of fun this morning discussing Alfredo Alberto! >Gonzales's apparent perjury without taking any note of this morning's >NYTimes story that seems to have explained it away. From this I >learned that (1) the shows are taped well in advance That depends on the show. All of the true "Sunday morning public-affairs shows" are live. Sunday Morning (which doesn't pretend to be a public-affairs program even though it's produced by CBS News) is mostly pre-recorded -- even the Osgood segments, except for the crossover with Schieffer, are recorded about an hour prior to broadcast. But "The McLaughlin Group" is different. It's a syndicated show, and the broadcast window opens on Friday, so the entire show must be recorded on Thursday (or early Friday morning at the very latest) so it can be uplinked (and ingested by the stations) before the first stations stations air it on Friday evening. (AIUI, the program is produced at WRC-TV and is offered on a barter basis to NBC stations; if the NBC affil doesn't care to take it, it is then offered for free [in a slightly different edit] to the PBS member station, and finally to other commercial stations in each market. "Inside Washington" is a similar deal.) -GAWollman SignatureGarrett A. Wollman | The real tragedy of human existence is not that we are wollman@csail.mit.edu| nasty by nature, but that a cruel structural asymmetry Opinions not those | grants to rare events of meanness such power to shape of MIT or CSAIL. | our history. - S.J. Gould, Ten Thousand Acts of Kindness >I find the Sunday morning talk shows useful background to the >transaction of business (including monkey business like AUE) on the >computer. Occasionally I learn something from them, but only >occasionally. They had a lot of fun this morning discussing Alfredo >Gonzales's apparent perjury without taking any note of this morning's >NYTimes story that seems to have explained it away. I didn't see the show, and I haven't read the NYT article, but how could *anything* about Gonzales be "explained...away"? Credibly. >From this I >learned that (1) the shows are taped well in advance or (2) the >moderators and participants are too busy getting ready for their >bloviations to pay any attention to the actual news. SignatureTony Cooper Orlando, FL >>I find the Sunday morning talk shows useful background to the >>transaction of business (including monkey business like AUE) on the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I didn't see the show, and I haven't read the NYT article, but how > could *anything* about Gonzales be "explained...away"? Credibly. I'm sure the "liberal media" at the Times put their best man on it. --Jeff Signature"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him, the spinal cord would fully suffice." --Albert Einstein > >>I find the Sunday morning talk shows useful background to the > >>transaction of business (including monkey business like AUE) on the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm sure the "liberal media" at the Times put their best man on it. Right. The liberal media are just a bunch of whores for Bush and Gonzales. The argument was over which particular "security program" Gonzales was trying to get Ashcroft to bless. Everyone seems to have thought that Gonzales was weeking Ashcroft's approval of the plan to interecept telephone calls, but he denied that under oath. Now it comes out that he may have been seeking approval of "data mining," which is something different, but couldn't say so because the Bushies have never owned up to data mining even though it's been exposed repeatedly in the press. If it is the case that he sought approval of data mining, he wasn't lying when he said it was something other than telephone intercepts. Given that the White House has never admitted to data mining before now, isn't it convenient that information about it has leaked just as Gonzales is being accused of perjury? But, convenient or not, it does offer an innocent explanation of what Gonzales said about the Ashcroft incident. The Bushies aren't always completely stupid and incompetent, even if it frequently seems that way. >The argument was over which particular "security program" Gonzales was >trying to get Ashcroft to bless. Did you happen to catch "The Daily Show" when Stewart did most of the show on Gonzales? Here are some clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZXTnbnpJzk I can't stand Jon Stewart, but I watch the show frequently. Jon's delivery is annoying, but the material is great. Really great. I've got the Tivo-type box set to record "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" every night. I much prefer Colbert's delivery and style, but Stewart presents some great stuff. SignatureTony Cooper Orlando, FL > The argument was over which particular "security program" Gonzales > was trying to get Ashcroft to bless. Everyone seems to have thought [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Bushies have never owned up to data mining even though it's been > exposed repeatedly in the press. Sigh. First the press latched onto "hacker" in the '80s without understanding what it meant and all of a sudden everybody "knew" that hackers were people who broke into computers. Now everybody knows that data mining is a way of spying on people. (Which, of course it can be, just as hackers *can* try to break into computers. But it's far more often a way to try to figure out how to more effectively run your business.) SignatureEvan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |It is a popular delusion that the 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |government wastes vast amounts of Palo Alto, CA 94304 |money through inefficiency and sloth. |Enormous effort and elaborate kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com |planning are required to waste this (650)857-7572 |much money | P.J. O'Rourke http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ > Sigh. First the press latched onto "hacker" in the '80s without > understanding what it meant and all of a sudden everybody "knew" that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > computers. But it's far more often a way to try to figure out how to > more effectively run your business.) Of course, if you business _is_ spying on people... SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary >Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." Sounded like fusillade to me, what does the transcript of the show say? > >John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary > >Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." > Sounded like fusillade to me, what does the transcript of the show > say? [ObAUE: Comma splice.] I don't know and don't care. I know what I heard. The man is a bit of a mushmouth, but he clearly said "fuselage." I'm willing to give him credit for a slip of the tongue rather than a true malaprop. He's probably not a moron. > > >John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary > > >Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > him credit for a slip of the tongue rather than a true malaprop. He's > probably not a moron. It looks as if you heard right. The transcript is now available, http://www.mclaughlin.com/library/transcript.asp?id=608 and it says MR. MCLAUGHLIN: Then on Tuesday, Senator Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow. -- John >> > >John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary >> > >Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > MR. MCLAUGHLIN: Then on Tuesday, Senator Clinton shot another >fuselage over Obama's bow. Thanks for the link to McLaughin, much better than trying to download the audio. Wish I had Bob's hearing. [ ... ] > Thanks for the link to McLaughin, much better than trying to download > the audio. Wish I had Bob's hearing. So do I. Actually, this is a classic example of hearing something unexpected and perking up. I was only about half-listening, but for some reason the sentence with "fuselage" stuck out immediately. I then took advantage of my Tivo-equivalent cable box and played it again. "Fuselage." What irwell needs is my technology, not my ears. > John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary > Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." > > That's not even an eggcorn, just a malaprop. I quoted McLaughlin's words over the dinner table tonight, but neither my former-English-teacher wife nor my National-Honor-Society son got the point: neither of them knew the word "fusillade." I don't think my son even remembered the meaning of "fuselage." What is this country's education system coming to? Perce >> John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary >> Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > son even remembered the meaning of "fuselage." What is this country's > education system coming to? Agreed. Send all those dummies to the mucilage factory. >>> John McLaughlin this morning on "The McLaughlin Report": "Hillary >>> Clinton shot another fuselage over Obama's bow." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Agreed. Send all those dummies to the mucilage factory. Via decollage. |
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