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Discussion Groups / English Usage / August 2007Marionberry
Although former Washington DC mayor and ex-jailbird Marion Barry is generally not held in high regard on the east coast, the people out there on the west coast have named a fruit after him, apparently as a tribute -- the marionberry. It is delicious in jams and pies. > Although former Washington DC mayor and ex-jailbird Marion Barry is > generally not held in high regard on the east coast, the people out there on > the west coast have named a fruit after him, apparently as a tribute -- the > marionberry. It is delicious in jams and pies. Excerpt from Wiki's entry for "blackberry:" Marion' (marketed as "marionberry") is an important cultivar and is from a cross between 'Chehalem' and 'Olallie' (commonly called "olallieberry") berries. It is claimed to "capture the best attributes of both berries and yields an aromatic bouquet and an intense blackberry flavor".[5]. Olallie in turn is a cross between loganberry and youngberry. 'Marion', 'Chehalem' and 'Olallie' are just three of the many trailing blackberry cultivars developed by the United States Department of Agriculture Agricultural Research Service (USDA-ARS) blackberry breeding program at Oregon State University in Corvallis, Oregon. [end excerpt] I get a lot of hits on "marion grass" when Googling, but didn't run down where the "marion" part of that comes from. That's much older than the DC mayor. -- Aloha ~~~ Ozzie Maland ~~~ San Diego [snip] > I get a lot of hits on "marion grass" when Googling, but didn't run > down where the "marion" part of that comes from. That's much older > than the DC mayor. [snip] I'm thinking it's more often spelled "*merion* grass" -- neither spelling is in OED2 or the One-Look dics. -- Aloha ~~~ Ozzie Maland ~~~ San Diego [...] > 'Marion', 'Chehalem' and 'Olallie' are just three of > the many trailing blackberry cultivars developed by the United States [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > down where the "marion" part of that comes from. That's much older > than the DC mayor. Look under geographic names. Wikipedia notes for the 3rd version that ""Olallie" means berry in the Chinook Jargon.". Jargon -- Chinook is usually referred to as a language. :-( Chehalem is a geographic name. I use to have access to a book on the origins of the placenames of Oregon, but that was long ago and far away, and a quick Google doesn't turn up what the Indians of the Willamette Valley thought it meant. /dps [...] > Chehalem is a geographic name. I use to have access to a book on the > origins of the placenames of Oregon, but that was long ago and far > away, and a quick Google doesn't turn up what the Indians of the > Willamette Valley thought it meant. Found one explanation, after sifting a bit: Google had a cached page for Travel Oregon that included the explanation that, "Chehalem (Chuh- hay-lum) is an American Indian word meaning "gentle land" or "valley of flowers," phrases that capture a reverence for the land." But the target page[1] no longer displays that text. [1] <http://www.traveloregon.com/Bounty/Willamette-Valley/Wineries/ Chehalem.aspx> /dps > Although former Washington DC mayor and ex-jailbird Marion Barry is > generally not held in high regard on the east coast, the people out there on > the west coast have named a fruit after him, apparently as a tribute -- the > marionberry. It is delicious in jams and pies. I think this is the first time this month that I've seen this "humor". /dps > Although former Washington DC mayor and ex-jailbird Marion Barry is > generally not held in high regard on the east coast, the people out there on > the west coast have named a fruit after him, apparently as a tribute -- the > marionberry. It is delicious in jams and pies. Coming from the other Washington, I was amazed even D.C. could elect a mayor named for a pie filling.  Signaturejosh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam <http://www.phred.org/~josh/> Braze your own bicycle frames. See <http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html> |
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