> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal-nephew
Thanks for that, padre: very interesting. I'll make sure Uncle Ratz
hasn't forgotten you.

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Peter Duncanson - 24 Oct 2007 17:22 GMT
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal-nephew
>
>Thanks for that, padre: very interesting.
One must be careful to distinquish between a "cardinal-nephew"
and the "nephew" of a cardinal.
> I'll make sure Uncle Ratz
>hasn't forgotten you.
Perhaps Nat is happy to fly under the papal radar, leaving him
free from interference from on high.

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On Oct 24, 3:28 am, "Father Ignatius"
<FatherIgnat...@ANTISPAMananzi.co.za> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal-nephew
The classic Brit nepotism is also described in Wiki, thusly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_your_uncle
...In 1887, British Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess
of Salisbury, appointed his nephew Arthur James Balfour as Minister
for Ireland. The press had a field day when he referred to the Prime
Minister as "Uncle Bob".[..] Balfour later went on to become Prime
Minister himself. This theory claims that to have "Bob" as one's uncle
is a guarantee of success, hence the implied meaning, "and if you do
this, you cannot fail."
[end excerpt]
This write-up doesn't mention that Balfour's appointment as Minister
for Ireland followed closely several other appointments that, in just
two years, elevated him from entry-level status in the government and
rocketed him ahead of long-term careerists.
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Evan Kirshenbaum - 24 Oct 2007 21:44 GMT
> On Oct 24, 3:28 am, "Father Ignatius"
> <FatherIgnat...@ANTISPAMananzi.co.za> wrote:
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> just two years, elevated him from entry-level status in the
> government and rocketed him ahead of long-term careerists.
It also doesn't mention that the OED couldn't find a citation for
"Bob's your uncle" until 1937, which seems a bit late for such an
etymology.

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Mike Lyle - 30 Oct 2007 17:00 GMT
> > On Oct 24, 3:28 am, "Father Ignatius"
> > <FatherIgnat...@ANTISPAMananzi.co.za> wrote:
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> "Bob's your uncle" until 1937, which seems a bit late for such an
> etymology.
Once again Partridge lets the side down by not giving a proper citation.
Under that expression in /Dict.Hist.Slang/ he has "Everything is
perfect: c.p.: from ca 1890." He does point out that "bob" had meant
"Lively, pleasant, nice" from 18-20C, and, in phrr such as "all is bob",
"safe", from 17-19C.

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