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Harvey Van Sickle - 03 Jan 2004 17:20 GMT
Like everyone else, I've come across many "loose/lose" and
"could've/could of" confusions, but this was a new one on me.

It comes from an otherwise acceptably literate post in uk.d-i-y, from
someone looking for a syringe to inject adhesive behind loose plaster
(to rebond it to the subsurface):

       Trouble is I can't find any syringes at all in B & Q,
       Wickes, etc.  I suppose I could use one of those would glue
       bottles with the screw top pointed nozzles, but a syringe
       allows for higher pressure which will help to ensure maximum
       coverage.

I had to read that twice to grasp the meaning of a "would glue bottle".  
Is this a one-off, or does it appear often -- say in descriptions of a
"nice would fire"?

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Cheers, Harvey

Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

Larry G - 03 Jan 2004 17:40 GMT
Harvey Van Sickle <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote in message ...
> Like everyone else, I've come across many "loose/lose" and
> "could've/could of" confusions, but this was a new one on me.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Is this a one-off, or does it appear often -- say in descriptions of a
> "nice would fire"?

Is this like the "Ralph/Rafe" thing?  I can't say I've ever given much
thought to the whole silent "L" thing before.  I always pronounce it in a
word like "palm" where many others do not.  And, yet I never pronounce the
"L" in a word like "talk", though I heard a popular L.A. DJ pronounce it
with the "L" and it seemed quite odd.

I've always pronounced "Ralph/f" with the "L" and heard it that way until
the actor "Ralph Fiennes" became popular stateside.  Don't know about it's
non-lambdic usage before my time say the early 70's and before in the U.S.

Larry
andrew - 04 Jan 2004 04:20 GMT
> Is this like the "Ralph/Rafe" thing?  I can't say I've ever given much
> thought to the whole silent "L" thing before.  I always pronounce it in a
> word like "palm" where many others do not.  And, yet I never pronounce the
> "L" in a word like "talk", though I heard a popular L.A. DJ pronounce it
> with the "L" and it seemed quite odd.

It must have been an affectation. I live in Orange County (right by L.A.)
and I have never once in my life heard the L in "talk". No one says it that
way here. On the other hand, we do pronounce the L in "palm" (as in "palm
trees", of which there are many around here.)
Larry G - 04 Jan 2004 14:51 GMT
andrew <andrew@wicked.as> wrote in message ...
> It must have been an affectation. I live in Orange County (right by L.A.)
> and I have never once in my life heard the L in "talk". No one says it that
> way here. On the other hand, we do pronounce the L in "palm" (as in "palm
> trees", of which there are many around here.)

Yep, that's the way I say it as well.  I'm from Southern California also.
The DJ I referred to is Tom Leykis from back when he did afternoon drive on
KFI.  He always pronounced "talk" with the "L" for some reason.  I don't
know where he is originally from though.

As for "palm" I pronounce it with the "L" also, but I've heard it without
the "L" also, usually by people from the East Coast or Midwest, but also
from older SoCal natives.

Larry
R F - 04 Jan 2004 21:58 GMT
> It must have been an affectation. I live in Orange County (right by L.A.)
> and I have never once in my life heard the L in "talk". No one says it that
> way here. On the other hand, we do pronounce the L in "palm" (as in "palm
> trees", of which there are many around here.)

I say /pAm/ for the palm of one's hand, but /pAlm/ for the tree.  Is this
a recognized distinction?
John Holmes - 05 Jan 2004 13:19 GMT
> I say /pAm/ for the palm of one's hand, but /pAlm/ for the tree.  Is
> this
> a recognized distinction?

No, I don't think there's any kind of award for that.

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John

R H Draney - 06 Jan 2004 15:55 GMT
John Holmes filted:

>> I say /pAm/ for the palm of one's hand, but /pAlm/ for the tree.  Is
>> this
>> a recognized distinction?
>
>No, I don't think there's any kind of award for that.

Maybe the folks at Cannes could come up with something....r
Harvey Van Sickle - 06 Jan 2004 16:41 GMT
On 06 Jan 2004, R H Draney wrote

> John Holmes filted:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Maybe the folks at Cannes could come up with something....r

They'd probably use their palm to show you the door.

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Cheers, Harvey

Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

Mike Lyle - 07 Jan 2004 12:22 GMT
> On 06 Jan 2004, R H Draney wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> They'd probably use their palm to show you the door.

You could compose a little paume about it.

Mike.
Donna Richoux - 03 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT
> Like everyone else, I've come across many "loose/lose" and
> "could've/could of" confusions, but this was a new one on me.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Is this a one-off, or does it appear often -- say in descriptions of a
> "nice would fire"?

Spelling checker substitution? Like if they typed "woud", which way woud
the spell checker chuck, if a spell checker coud check woud...

Hmmm?

Now, my Writenow offers, for "woud"

wound
word
boud
loud
wood
woad
wold
would
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Best -- Donna Richoux

Harvey Van Sickle - 03 Jan 2004 18:21 GMT
On 03 Jan 2004, Donna Richoux wrote

re: "one of those would glue bottles with the screw top pointed
nozzles"

>> I had to read that twice to grasp the meaning of a "would glue
>> bottle". Is this a one-off, or does it appear often -- say in
>> descriptions of a "nice would fire"?

> Spelling checker substitution? Like if they typed "woud", which
> way woud the spell checker chuck, if a spell checker coud check
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Now, my Writenow offers, for "woud"

-snip-

Ah:  that could well be where it came from -- hadn't thought of that.

I tend to forget that people use spell checkers in news posts, as I
recklessly cavort nekkid and sans checker in the great world of Usenet.  
(XNews doesn't have a built-in one, and I've never bothered to set up
an external checker.)

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Cheers, Harvey

Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years;
Southern England for the past 21 years.
(for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs)

 
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