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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2004Vot a City!
Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". > Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: > > "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". Vot's the problem? The M and the machine? It may be redundant, but I think it's here to stay. Or is it the due to, ( I can never remember why that's a possible problem). Or is it the cold itself plus the failure of the machine? If so it just reminded me that I trace the beginning of the end of my childhood to an air show in Sutton Coldfield. An RAF "all-weather fighter" failed to put in an appearance because of the possibility of rain. And I began to question the infallibility of adults. > An RAF "all-weather fighter" failed to put in an appearance because of > the possibility of rain. And I began to question the infallibility of > adults. Are you sure it wasn't a British Rail all-weather fighter ? Bob Martin >> Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Or is it the due to, ( I can never remember why that's a possible >problem). It suggests that the machine was due to the cold.  SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk >> Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: >> >> "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". > >Vot's the problem? If you vont the votch, buy the votch. If you don't vont the votch, take your snotty nose off the vindow. >>> Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: >>> >>> "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". One problem is that either "M" or "machine" is redundant. I have encountered problems here in the GreatWhiteNorth with a parking ticket (purchased - not written by a traffic cop) machine. One had to press a button until the desired time period was displayed, then swipe the credit card. But below about -25'C the LCD stopped displaying. SignatureJohn W Hall <wweexxsseessssaa@telus.net> Cochrane, Alberta, Canada. "Helping People Prosper in the Information Age" > One problem is that either "M" or "machine" is redundant. > > I have encountered problems here in the GreatWhiteNorth with a parking > ticket (purchased - not written by a traffic cop) machine. One had to > press a button until the desired time period was displayed, then swipe > the credit card. But below about -25'C the LCD stopped displaying. I've sometimes wondered what a strong magnet might do to such parking meters. I have a feeling it might blank out the display. Much more convenient than superglue in the coin chute... SignatureSchubert left a great work unfinished and died famous. Why not me? In article <Pine.GSO.4.53.0401070033340.8602@alumni.wesleyan.edu>, R F <rfontana@alumni.wesleyan.edu> posted: > Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: > > "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". Obviously, cold hard cash isn't available under very cold conditions. *---===== English is Munglish =====---* Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti >In article <Pine.GSO.4.53.0401070033340.8602@alumni.wesleyan.edu>, > R F <rfontana@alumni.wesleyan.edu> posted: >> >> Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: >> >> "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". Clearly not written by an afficiondo of Usenet, etc. abbreviations. It should be "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service ATM". SignaturePeter Duncanson UK (posting from a.e.u) > >> Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: > >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It should be "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service > ATM". Surely "Due to the extreme cold, this machine is out of service" is sufficient, if the notice is stuck on the machine, as is suggested. > Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: > > "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". Ah, no cold cash, then. SignatureSkitt (in Hayward, California) www.geocities.com/opus731/ > Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: > > "Due to the extreme cold this ATM machine is out of service". I recently read that the "D" in "D-day" stands for either "day" or "date." Presumably, those who are not bothered by "ATM machine" or "PIN number" will have no problem with "D-day," but those who are bothered by the expressions in question will have to see the "D" in "D-day" as meaning "date," if they want to be happy using the term. Ah, but I now see that the 11th Collegiate says of the "D," in its etymology for "D-day": "D, abbreviation for day." No mention of "date." The same is true of the AHD4 entry for "D-day" at http://www.bartleby.com/61/4/D0050400.html I have to wonder why "D-day" has never come up before when we have discussed those other expressions. Could it be because of the popular belief that "D-day" stands for "disembarkation day," which, it now appears, is a folk etymology? SignatureRaymond S. Wise Minneapolis, Minnesota USA E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com >>Sign seen on an ATM in the Chicago Loop: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > "D-day" stands for "disembarkation day," which, it now appears, is a folk > etymology? It was discussed, according to Google, in 1994. I never heard "disembarkation day", myself. I do remember asking my brother (who was always interested in military history) why it was D-day, and he explained it to me. I can't really remember what he said, but he pointed out that there was an H-hour on D-day, which made it easier for me to understand. SignatureFrances Kemmish Production Manager East Coast Youth Ballet www.byramartscenter.com > I never heard "disembarkation day", myself. I do remember asking my > brother (who was always interested in military history) why it was > D-day, and he explained it to me. I can't really remember what he said, > but he pointed out that there was an H-hour on D-day, which made it > easier for me to understand. It's simple enough. D-day means "day D", and H-hour means "hour H". By leaving the starting time and date unexpressed, plans can be made using expressions like H+6 or D+1 without the need to change them -- for example, when the D-day of Operation Overlord was changed from June 5 to June 6, 1944. Why the form "D-day" instead of "day D"? Well, we are, after all, talking about people who think it's sensible to pronounce "10:00" as "ten hundred hours", and I don't see that any more needs to be said. SignatureMark Brader | "You read war books -- people shooting each other, Toronto | people bombing each other, people torturing each msb@vex.net | other. I like to look at people doing, uh, naughty | things to each other!" -- Ria, "Butterflies" My text in this article is in the public domain. >>I never heard "disembarkation day", myself. I do remember asking my >>brother (who was always interested in military history) why it was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > talking about people who think it's sensible to pronounce "10:00" as > "ten hundred hours", and I don't see that any more needs to be said. Wasn't the D for deliverance ? Bob Martin |
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