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eager - 28 Jan 2008 01:42 GMT Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? Thanks
Fred - 28 Jan 2008 02:07 GMT > Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? > Thanks I certainly can't. I have often asked those who say 'new years' whether that is plural or possessive. I've yet to receive anything better than a blank stare.
Dan S. - 28 Jan 2008 02:24 GMT eager wrote :
> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? > Thanks I assume the are simply leaving off the word "day" and the apostrophe. The full statement would probably be, "Did you have a good New Year's Day?"
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Lars Eighner - 28 Jan 2008 02:33 GMT > Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? Because it is a mistake. It is "New Year's." The first of January is New Year's Day. The day before is New Year's Eve. The celebrations and observance of the day, which may include other days, especially when New Year's Day falls on Friday, Monday, or the weekend, are sometimes called New Year's. The new year itself is one year and singular.
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John O'Flaherty - 28 Jan 2008 04:05 GMT >> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Year's Day falls on Friday, Monday, or the weekend, are sometimes called New >Year's. The new year itself is one year and singular. And it doesn't make sense to ask if it was good until it's not new any more.
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the Omrud - 28 Jan 2008 08:58 GMT > > Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Year's Day falls on Friday, Monday, or the weekend, are sometimes called New > Year's. The new year itself is one year and singular. And in UK English, the abbreviation is not used, so "good new years" or "good new year's" makes no sense.
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Mike Lyle - 28 Jan 2008 16:17 GMT >>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", >>> please? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And in UK English, the abbreviation is not used, so "good new years" > or "good new year's" makes no sense. On the other hand, it's often enough we hear and read "Valentine's", and I imagine half the population, whether or not connected with the fruit and vegetable business, feel there's an apostrophe somewhere in "Guy Fawkes" (which, irrelevantly, in Oz WIWAL was pronounced "Guy Fox" with the stress on the "Guy").
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Skitt - 28 Jan 2008 19:04 GMT > usenet@larseighner.com had it:
>>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", >>> please? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And in UK English, the abbreviation is not used, so "good new years" > or "good new year's" makes no sense. To my mind, the omitted word is "celebration". Did you have a good New Year's celebration? That's what the question is about, anyway.
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Paul Wolff - 28 Jan 2008 21:04 GMT >the Omrud wrote: >> usenet@larseighner.com had it: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >To my mind, the omitted word is "celebration". Did you have a good New >Year's celebration? That's what the question is about, anyway. This is mildly surprising. I had already determined that the missing word was "holiday". I had a pleasant few days' holiday without any celebration (because after several dozen of them one begins to realise that a change of year number is about as significant as the flicking on of the numeral fifth from the right on the car's odometer) and suspect that those who celebrate without any holiday are relatively few.
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Skitt - 28 Jan 2008 22:11 GMT >> the Omrud wrote: >>> usenet@larseighner.com had it:
>>>>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", >>>>> please? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > suspect that those who celebrate without any holiday are relatively > few. Right. If you were to ask me how my New Year's celebration was, I'd say, "Oh, we just stayed home and watched television. Shortly after midnight we went to sleep." The holiday was yet to come after a good night's sleep. How was the holiday? Oh, same as any other day -- we're retired, you know.
As for my very much younger days, what you refer to as the holiday was usually spent wishing for death to come ASAP. It was the celebration before it that was awesome!
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Paul Wolff - 28 Jan 2008 22:53 GMT >Paul Wolff wrote: >>> the Omrud wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >usually spent wishing for death to come ASAP. It was the celebration >before it that was awesome! I can understand that. January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is party night. In fact, there may be a connection there. What I imagined by the holiday is the block of days that workers may have off work around Jan 1st, which unless that day is a Wednesday may be extended easily into the weekend preceding or following.
If the question "Did you have a good New Year's?" really does mean "Did you have a good New Year's Eve knees-up?", so be it. I gave my take on it from over here on the sunrise side.
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tony cooper - 28 Jan 2008 23:12 GMT >I can understand that. January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is >party night. You'll use any excuse to party, won't you?
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Mike Lyle - 28 Jan 2008 23:33 GMT >> I can understand that. January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st >> is party night. > > You'll use any excuse to party, won't you? What's the matter? St John Bosco not good enough for you? So let's drink to the Third Day of the Fast of the Armenian Catechumens --I'm sure we can agree on that.
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R H Draney - 29 Jan 2008 13:33 GMT tony cooper filted:
>>I can understand that. January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is >>party night. > >You'll use any excuse to party, won't you? When he gets to Feb 31st, stand back!...r
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Paul Wolff - 29 Jan 2008 15:36 GMT >tony cooper filted: >> >>>I can understand that. January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is >>>party night. Oh, whoops.
>>You'll use any excuse to party, won't you? Jan 31st is the day my tax return may be complete and filed.
>When he gets to Feb 31st, stand back!...r Eleven months of 31 days would leave us 24 or 25 for December -- we could cut Christmas celebration back to once every four years.
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Robert Bannister - 30 Jan 2008 23:59 GMT >>I can understand that. January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is >>party night. > > You'll use any excuse to party, won't you? And, presumably, tonight's the night. I wonder whether Paul calls it a New Year's party.
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Paul Wolff - 31 Jan 2008 10:59 GMT >tony cooper wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >And, presumably, tonight's the night. I wonder whether Paul calls it a >New Year's party. We'll see, we'll see... much hangs on my tax accountant today.
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the Omrud - 31 Jan 2008 12:38 GMT >> tony cooper wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > We'll see, we'll see... much hangs on my tax accountant today. In that case, Eek: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7219718.stm
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Robert Bannister - 29 Jan 2008 00:04 GMT > Right. If you were to ask me how my New Year's celebration was, I'd > say, "Oh, we just stayed home and watched television. Shortly after > midnight we went to sleep." The holiday was yet to come after a good > night's sleep. How was the holiday? Oh, same as any other day -- we're > retired, you know. Don't tell me. I forgot about New Year completely and was somewhat put out to find the shops closed.
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Robert Bannister - 29 Jan 2008 00:02 GMT >> usenet@larseighner.com had it: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > To my mind, the omitted word is "celebration". Did you have a good New > Year's celebration? That's what the question is about, anyway. Is it really about the New Year's Eve party, or is it about the holiday on the following day, which often results in a long weekend when people can go away?
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Steve Hayes - 29 Jan 2008 07:26 GMT >Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please? >Thanks I asked about that, and Tony Cooper said I was imagining things, so you must be too.
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