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did you have a good new years?

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eager - 28 Jan 2008 01:42 GMT
Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?
Thanks
Fred - 28 Jan 2008 02:07 GMT
> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?
> Thanks

I certainly can't. I have often asked those who say 'new years' whether that
is plural or possessive. I've yet to receive anything better than a blank
stare.
Dan S. - 28 Jan 2008 02:24 GMT
eager wrote :
> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?
> Thanks

I assume the are simply leaving off the word "day" and the apostrophe.  
The full statement would probably be, "Did you have a good New Year's
Day?"

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Lars Eighner - 28 Jan 2008 02:33 GMT
> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?

Because it is a mistake.  It is "New Year's."  The first of January is New
Year's Day.  The day before is New Year's Eve.  The celebrations and
observance of the day, which may include other days, especially when New
Year's Day falls on Friday, Monday, or the weekend, are sometimes called New
Year's.  The new year itself is one year and singular.

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John O'Flaherty - 28 Jan 2008 04:05 GMT
>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?
>
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>Year's Day falls on Friday, Monday, or the weekend, are sometimes called New
>Year's.  The new year itself is one year and singular.

And it doesn't make sense to ask if it was good until it's not new any
more.
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the Omrud - 28 Jan 2008 08:58 GMT
> > Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?
>
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> Year's Day falls on Friday, Monday, or the weekend, are sometimes called New
> Year's.  The new year itself is one year and singular.

And in UK English, the abbreviation is not used, so "good new years"
or "good new year's" makes no sense.

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Mike Lyle - 28 Jan 2008 16:17 GMT
>>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year",
>>> please?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> And in UK English, the abbreviation is not used, so "good new years"
> or "good new year's" makes no sense.

On the other hand, it's often enough we hear and read "Valentine's", and
I imagine half the population, whether or not connected with the fruit
and vegetable business, feel there's an apostrophe somewhere in "Guy
Fawkes" (which, irrelevantly, in Oz WIWAL was pronounced "Guy Fox" with
the stress on the "Guy").

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Skitt - 28 Jan 2008 19:04 GMT
> usenet@larseighner.com had it:

>>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year",
>>> please?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> And in UK English, the abbreviation is not used, so "good new years"
> or "good new year's" makes no sense.

To my mind, the omitted word is "celebration".  Did you have a good New
Year's celebration?  That's what the question is about, anyway.
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Paul Wolff - 28 Jan 2008 21:04 GMT
>the Omrud wrote:
>> usenet@larseighner.com had it:
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>To my mind, the omitted word is "celebration".  Did you have a good New
>Year's celebration?  That's what the question is about, anyway.

This is mildly surprising.  I had already determined that the missing
word was "holiday".  I had a pleasant few days' holiday without any
celebration (because after several dozen of them one begins to realise
that a change of year number is about as significant as the flicking on
of the numeral fifth from the right on the car's odometer) and suspect
that those who celebrate without any holiday are relatively few.
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Skitt - 28 Jan 2008 22:11 GMT
>> the Omrud wrote:
>>> usenet@larseighner.com had it:

>>>>> Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year",
>>>>> please?
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> suspect that those who celebrate without any holiday are relatively
> few.

Right.  If you were to ask me how my New Year's celebration was, I'd say,
"Oh, we just stayed home and watched television.  Shortly after midnight we
went to sleep."  The holiday was yet to come after a good night's sleep.
How was the holiday?  Oh, same as any other day -- we're retired, you know.

As for my very much younger days, what you refer to as the holiday was
usually spent wishing for death to come ASAP.  It was the celebration before
it that was awesome!
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Paul Wolff - 28 Jan 2008 22:53 GMT
>Paul Wolff wrote:
>>> the Omrud wrote:
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>usually spent wishing for death to come ASAP.  It was the celebration
>before it that was awesome!

I can understand that.  January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is
party night.  In fact, there may be a connection there.  What I imagined
by the holiday is the block of days that workers may have off work
around Jan 1st, which unless that day is a Wednesday may be extended
easily into the weekend preceding or following.

If the question "Did you have a good New Year's?" really does mean "Did
you have a good New Year's Eve knees-up?", so be it.  I gave my take on
it from over here on the sunrise side.
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tony cooper - 28 Jan 2008 23:12 GMT
>I can understand that.  January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is
>party night.

You'll use any excuse to party, won't you?

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Mike Lyle - 28 Jan 2008 23:33 GMT
>> I can understand that.  January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st
>> is party night.
>
> You'll use any excuse to party, won't you?

What's the matter? St John Bosco not good enough for you? So let's drink
to the Third Day of the Fast of the Armenian Catechumens --I'm sure we
can agree on that.

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R H Draney - 29 Jan 2008 13:33 GMT
tony cooper filted:

>>I can understand that.  January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is
>>party night.
>
>You'll use any excuse to party, won't you?

When he gets to Feb 31st, stand back!...r

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Paul Wolff - 29 Jan 2008 15:36 GMT
>tony cooper filted:
>>
>>>I can understand that.  January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is
>>>party night.

Oh, whoops.

>>You'll use any excuse to party, won't you?

Jan 31st is the day my tax return may be complete and filed.

>When he gets to Feb 31st, stand back!...r

Eleven months of 31 days would leave us 24 or 25 for December -- we
could cut Christmas celebration back to once every four years.
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Robert Bannister - 30 Jan 2008 23:59 GMT
>>I can understand that.  January 1st may be the day off, but Jan 31st is
>>party night.
>
> You'll use any excuse to party, won't you?

And, presumably, tonight's the night. I wonder whether Paul calls it a
New Year's party.
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Paul Wolff - 31 Jan 2008 10:59 GMT
>tony cooper wrote:
>
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>And, presumably, tonight's the night. I wonder whether Paul calls it a
>New Year's party.

We'll see, we'll see... much hangs on my tax accountant today.
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the Omrud - 31 Jan 2008 12:38 GMT
>> tony cooper wrote:
>>
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>
> We'll see, we'll see... much hangs on my tax accountant today.

In that case, Eek:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7219718.stm

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Robert Bannister - 29 Jan 2008 00:04 GMT
> Right.  If you were to ask me how my New Year's celebration was, I'd
> say, "Oh, we just stayed home and watched television.  Shortly after
> midnight we went to sleep."  The holiday was yet to come after a good
> night's sleep. How was the holiday?  Oh, same as any other day -- we're
> retired, you know.

Don't tell me. I forgot about New Year completely and was somewhat put
out to find the shops closed.
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Robert Bannister - 29 Jan 2008 00:02 GMT
>> usenet@larseighner.com had it:
>
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> To my mind, the omitted word is "celebration".  Did you have a good New
> Year's celebration?  That's what the question is about, anyway.

Is it really about the New Year's Eve party, or is it about the holiday
on the following day, which often results in a long weekend when people
can go away?

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Steve Hayes - 29 Jan 2008 07:26 GMT
>Anyone can help me understand why is it "years" and not "year", please?
>Thanks

I asked about that, and Tony Cooper said I was imagining things, so you must
be too.

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