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tap - 11 Jan 2004 11:15 GMT
Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
answer?

She felt ------  when she heard the news.
a) so surprise
b) so surprising
c) very surprising
d) so surprsied

-tap

thanx
Sebastian Hew - 11 Jan 2004 13:23 GMT
> Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
> examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> c) very surprising
> d) so surprsied

(D) is correct (if misspelt). (B) and (c) are both incorrect because it
is the news that is surprising, not the person hearing the news. (A) is
grammatically incorrect.
Mike Lyle - 11 Jan 2004 21:41 GMT
> > Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
> > examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> is the news that is surprising, not the person hearing the news. (A) is
> grammatically incorrect.

And beware of English teachers who tell you that "so" can always be
used in place of "very". It's a very common mistake.

Mike.
Gary Vellenzer - 11 Jan 2004 22:10 GMT
> > > Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
> > > examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
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> And beware of English teachers who tell you that "so" can always be
> used in place of "very". It's a very common mistake.

Is it indeed so common a mistake?

Gary
Skitt - 11 Jan 2004 23:13 GMT
>>> Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
>>> examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> And beware of English teachers who tell you that "so" can always be
> used in place of "very". It's a very common mistake.

Another common mistake I've noticed Asian learners make is the use of "too"
when they mean "very".
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Steve Hayes - 12 Jan 2004 04:37 GMT
>> > Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
>> > examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>And beware of English teachers who tell you that "so" can always be
>used in place of "very". It's a very common mistake.

Or, in US English, "it's so a common mistake".

At least that was the gist of a discusion here a few months ago.

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Pat Durkin - 12 Jan 2004 05:11 GMT
> >> > Yesterday i came across this Multiple Choice question on my english
> >> > examination. Can someone give me some ideas which one is the right
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>
> At least that was the gist of a discusion here a few months ago.

I don't recall the resolution of any such discussion.

However, I think in my version of US English:

"It is so a common mistake" might be part of an argument.  Note the separate
words, indicating at least an equal stress on the "is so".

"It is a so common mistake" might also be heard.
Aaron J. Dinkin - 12 Jan 2004 13:27 GMT
>> Or, in US English, "it's so a common mistake".
>>
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> "It is so a common mistake" might be part of an argument.  Note the
> separate words, indicating at least an equal stress on the "is so".

I have the usage of "so" that Steve is alluding to, but I can't use it in
the sentence in question - in particular, I don't think it can be used
where it can be grammatically replaced by "such" (e.g., before a noun
phrase with "a"/"an"). This is the usage of "so" to modify the complement
of the copula "be" in order to emphasize the state of affairs indicated
by the sentence. "So" is stressed; the copula usually isn't. For instance,
"You are so not my friend anymore"; "As soon as I get home, I'm so going
right to bed."

This is different from the use of "so" you describe, which has the
meaning 'I reassert my claim in the face of your denial.' This "so", as
you note, requires stress on both "so" and the verb auxiliary, and it
can't be used with "not", so this can't be the "so" in either of the
example sentences above.

> "It is a so common mistake" might also be heard.

I don't think this is grammatical for me. It'd have to be "such a common
mistake" or "so common a mistake".

-Aaron J. Dinkin
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