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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2004Inside cover? First page?
I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, the page that you would see if you ripped the cover off (but please don't). What is this page called? The inside cover? The first page? "Inside cover" makes me think it's on the back of the front cover; "first page" sounds like it refers to the page with "CHAPTER ONE" on it.  SignatureSML ess el five six zero at columbia dot edu <http://pirate-women.com> > I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions > of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cover" makes me think it's on the back of the front cover; "first page" > sounds like it refers to the page with "CHAPTER ONE" on it. That's a flyleaf, more specifically, one of the "endpapers" of a book. Endpapers, contrary to the name, occur at the beginning and end of a book. Check it out: they're a folded sheet, double the size of a normal page, and usually of thicker paper, pasted down completely on one side to the inside cover and at the fold to the first page. SignatureCheers, Jody jodybilyeu@smsu.edu > > I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions > > of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > thicker paper, pasted down completely on one side to the inside cover and at the > fold to the first page. I could have been more specific: a flyleaf is the unpasted part of an endpaper. SignatureCheers, Jody jodybilyeu@smsu.edu [ . . . ] > I could have been more specific: a flyleaf is the > unpasted part of an endpaper. And, contrary to the name, a flyleaf is not made of fly paper. > [ . . . ] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And, contrary to the name, a flyleaf is not made of fly > paper. Nor does it have a zipper. SignatureGary G. Taylor * Rialto, CA gary at donavan dot org / http:// geetee dot donavan dot org "The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." --Harlan Ellison [ . . . ] > Endpapers, contrary to the name, occur at the beginning and end of a book. Not necessarily contrary to the name. Like many other things, a book has two ends: a front end and a back end. > I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions > of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cover" makes me think it's on the back of the front cover; "first page" > sounds like it refers to the page with "CHAPTER ONE" on it. I recommend the glossary at ABEBooks: <http://www.abebooks.com/docs/HelpCentral/Glossary/buyerIndex.shtml> Front Matter- The pages preceding the text of a book, in the following order: bastard title or fly title frontispiece title page copyright page dedication preface or forward table of contents list of illustrations introduction acknowledgments half-title I do hope you will give us first refusal on your books. SignatureSimon R. Hughes >> I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions >> of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >I do hope you will give us first refusal on your books. I also look forward to "soiled bastard title" in the ad. (Anyone for an After Eight -- in mint condition?) -- Ross Howard > >> I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions > >> of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I also look forward to "soiled bastard title" in the ad. The _Chicago Manual of Style_ gives a different, though similar list of "front matter." Interestingly, or whatever, the endpages, each with its flyleaf, joins neither the bastard title nor the sadly underused dirty-bastard title among the "front matter." You'll have to look in a dictionary for those, or in a bookbinding, rather than editing, guide. My understanding, backed up by other sources I've just consulted, is that "bastard title" and "half title" are different terms for the same thing, so I'm wondering, if so, why one appears under each name on that list. By the way, _Chicago Manual of Style_ goes for the more politic "half title" instead of "bastard title" these days, the soiled bastards. SignatureCheers, Jody jodybilyeu@smsu.edu In alt.usage.english, Simon R. Hughes wrote: >> I'm selling a stack of my old books, and need to write up descriptions >> of their conditions. Some of them have my name on the very first page, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > dedication > preface or forward "forward"? Is that like "foreword"? SignatureMike Barnes Cheshire, England > In alt.usage.english, Simon R. Hughes wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Is that like "foreword"? Only if it's leaning. SignatureSimon R. Hughes |
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