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Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2008An OED-whack
_Gallerist_. Clearly, one who owns or, perhaps, manages a gallery. /Guardian/, /Interiors Directory/ (supplement) 23 Feb. '08, p.47. "This new breed of gallerists, curators and designers is still reliant on the art world's knowledge and spending." I see that, predictably, Spanish already has /galerista/ and French, /galeriste/.  SignatureMike. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Mike wrote on Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:02:34 -0000: ML> I see that, predictably, Spanish already has /galerista/ ML> and French, /galeriste/. ML> -- ML> Mike. I can never remember what are the actual functions of the "director" and "producer" of a film but we now seem to need "auteur". James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not James Silverton filted: >I can never remember what are the actual functions of the >"director" and "producer" of a film but we now seem to need >"auteur". The director tells people where to stand; the producer tells them where they stand....r SignatureWhat good is being an executive if you never get to execute anyone? > James Silverton filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > stand....r > What good is being an executive if you never get to execute anyone? There are executrices, I suspect, and I know about shootists, so how about executists? On Feb 26, 9:18 am, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.not> wrote: > Mike wrote on Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:02:34 -0000: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "director" and "producer" of a film but we now seem to need > "auteur". It's usually just elegant variation for "director", especially the more elegant kind. In principle it means a director thought of as completely responsible for the film, as an author is responsible for a book. This is closer to the truth if the director wrote the script, and even closer if the director also starred. -- Jerry Friedman jerry_friedman@yahoo.com filted: >On Feb 26, 9:18 am, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.not> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >book. This is closer to the truth if the director wrote the script, >and even closer if the director also starred. Which leaves us with the likes of Michael Moore, Spike Lee and Adam Sandler...not exactly the most august company, is it?...r SignatureWhat good is being an executive if you never get to execute anyone? >jerry_friedman@yahoo.com filted: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Which leaves us with the likes of Michael Moore, Spike Lee and Adam >Sandler...not exactly the most august company, is it?...r Spike Lee comes pretty close to being an auteur. Michael Moore does documentaries, such as they are, which aren't usually attributed to "auteurs". But the term was originally applied to the likes of Truffaut, Hitchcock, Antonioni, Renoir and Fellini. Signature************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * >Which leaves us with the likes of Michael Moore, Spike Lee and Adam >Sandler...not exactly the most august company, is it?...r Speaking of which, I say "aw-gust" for this and "awgust" for the month with emphasis on the "gust" in the first. Universal? -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida tony cooper wrote, in <4q59s3letklfq90t0jicqqkrlctkrb9cjc@4ax.com> on Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:50:24 -0500: > >Which leaves us with the likes of Michael Moore, Spike Lee and Adam > >Sandler...not exactly the most august company, is it?...r > > Speaking of which, I say "aw-gust" for this and "awgust" for the month > with emphasis on the "gust" in the first. Universal? It gets my vote. SignatureNick Spalding BrE/IrE > >Which leaves us with the likes of Michael Moore, Spike Lee and Adam > >Sandler...not exactly the most august company, is it?...r > > Speaking of which, I say "aw-gust" for this and "awgust" for the month > with emphasis on the "gust" in the first. Universal? I agree with your pronunciations. SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary On Feb 27, 12:40 pm, Amethyst Deceiver <s...@lindsayendell.co.uk> wrote: > In article <4q59s3letklfq90t0jicqqkrlctkrb9...@4ax.com>, tony_cooper213 > @earthlink.net says... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I agree with your pronunciations. Me, too. Stephanie > On Feb 27, 12:40 pm, Amethyst Deceiver <s...@lindsayendell.co.uk> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Me, too. And me. But what about the name? I presume it's pronounced like the month, but then there's Augustus throwing everything off. SignatureSML >> On Feb 27, 12:40 pm, Amethyst Deceiver <s...@lindsayendell.co.uk> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >And me. But what about the name? I presume it's pronounced like the >month, but then there's Augustus throwing everything off. The one I've met pronounced it "Aw gus tus" with an emphasis on the "gus". -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida tony cooper filted: >>> On Feb 27, 12:40 pm, Amethyst Deceiver <s...@lindsayendell.co.uk> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >The one I've met pronounced it "Aw gus tus" with an emphasis on the >"gus". The one I've met pronounced it "Sandy"...(his surname was "March", which makes me think his parents must have been up to something)....r SignatureWhat good is being an executive if you never get to execute anyone? tony cooper wrote, in <bvecs3h5fm5ilqvog2cioftfrdrfp6rapu@4ax.com> on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:44:16 -0500: > >> On Feb 27, 12:40 pm, Amethyst Deceiver <s...@lindsayendell.co.uk> > >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > The one I've met pronounced it "Aw gus tus" with an emphasis on the > "gus". The one I know pronounces it "Gus". SignatureNick Spalding BrE/IrE > > On Feb 27, 12:40 pm, Amethyst Deceiver <s...@lindsayendell.co.uk> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > And me. But what about the name? I presume it's pronounced like the > month, but then there's Augustus throwing everything off. My friend who goes by the name of August pronounces his name exactly like the month. SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary >_Gallerist_. Clearly, one who owns or, perhaps, manages a gallery. >/Guardian/, /Interiors Directory/ (supplement) 23 Feb. '08, p.47. "This [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I see that, predictably, Spanish already has /galerista/ and French, >/galeriste/. Hmm. Babelfish translates Spanish "galerista" into English "curator". And for French "galeriste" it offers English "galerist". But the OED owns to neither "gallerist" nor "galerist". Still, it sounds like a term whose time has come. "Galerista", though, sounds more like someone who hangs around galleries. Like "Portillista". SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ >> _Gallerist_. Clearly, one who owns or, perhaps, manages a gallery. >> /Guardian/, /Interiors Directory/ (supplement) 23 Feb. '08, p.47. "This [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > "Galerista", though, sounds more like someone who hangs around > galleries. Like "Portillista". Is that someone who hangs around Michael Portillo? Then there is "barista" which my eyes and inner voice sometimes confuse with "barrister". SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) > Then there is "barista" which my eyes and inner voice sometimes confuse > with "barrister". Hmm, I had to read that twice. I don't think I've ever heard anyone actually say 'barista' out loud but my inner voice puts the stress on the second syllable (which it doesn't do with 'barrister'). I wonder how many of either we have lurking about here? S in B >On Feb 26, 6:00 pm, LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >actually say 'barista' out loud but my inner voice puts the stress on >the second syllable (which it doesn't do with 'barrister'). I have a secret wish that one day a barista will turn out to be a female nudist (or is that a nudette?). >I wonder how many of either we have lurking about here? Yes, I wonder too? (Those ?? are catching.) SignaturePaul > >> Then there is "barista" which my eyes and inner voice sometimes confuse > >> with "barrister". [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I have a secret wish that one day a barista will turn out to be a female > nudist (or is that a nudette?). By some sort of loose late night analogy, does that make a gazette a female gazelle? Must go to bed, this too much for me. Stephanie Brussels > I have a secret wish that one day a barista will turn out to be a female > nudist ... Bringing the thread back to gallerism, this reminds me of the magazine called Gallery. As in a place displaying photos. Photos of.......... gals. SignatureMark Brader "'... Fifty science-fiction magazines don't give Toronto you half the naked women that a good issue of msb@vex.net the Sunday Times does.'" --SPACE, James Michener >> _Gallerist_. Clearly, one who owns or, perhaps, manages a gallery. >> /Guardian/, /Interiors Directory/ (supplement) 23 Feb. '08, p.47. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > "Galerista", though, sounds more like someone who hangs around > galleries. Like "Portillista". I wasn't basing my report on the international situation on Babelfish, you'll be pleased to learn. I used my fat 5th ed. Collins Robert for the French, and my equally plump 6th ed. Collins Grijalbo for the Spanish. Now I'll have to remember to actually /send/ it to OED. (Yes, Laura: a Portillista is a Portillo-grouper. I'd have expected a leading Aueista like you to know that. ...And, yes, Stephanie: I'm sure it does mean gallery owner.) SignatureMike. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Feb 26, 8:01 pm, "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote: > (Yes, Laura: a Portillista is a Portillo-grouper. I'd have expected a > leading Aueista like you to know that. *Grouper*? I'd expect that to be a fish... does that mean schools of groupies follow the man about? cheers, Stephanie PS -- are gallery owners more important than curators? Are gallerists more important than gallery owners? Is there a phenomenon at work here? > On Feb 26, 8:01 pm, "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > *Grouper*? I'd expect that to be a fish... does that mean schools of > groupies follow the man about? IRTA as "groper" which made much more sense. SignatureLaura, awake in the wee small hours worrying about the management of septic tanks (emulate St. George for email) On Feb 26, 5:02 pm, "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote: > _Gallerist_. Clearly, one who owns or, perhaps, manages a gallery. > /Guardian/, /Interiors Directory/ (supplement) 23 Feb. '08, p.47. "This > new breed of gallerists, curators and designers is still reliant on the > art world's knowledge and spending." I was baffled by this term when it appeared in friends' conversation here last autumn. The context was that two friends, artists, shared a studio, and had an offer to exhibit at a local gallery. One of said friends was very unhappy when the 'gallerist' turned down most of his (friend nr 1's) paintings and took many more than expected of those by friend nr 2. There then ensued an agitated discussion of the privileges of 'gallerists'. I assumed this meant 'curator' or 'gallery owner' but mostly kept my head down as the degree of ego injury flying about was scary and sad. And all involved were Finnish or Swedish, so I had no idea which language the word came from. Are they indeed a new breed, slowly taking over the world, or are they just gallery owners with new nametags? cheers, Stephanie in Brussels > _Gallerist_. Clearly, one who owns or, perhaps, manages a gallery. > /Guardian/, /Interiors Directory/ (supplement) 23 Feb. '08, p.47. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I see that, predictably, Spanish already has /galerista/ and French, > /galeriste/. OK. I always assumed the Spanish "performer" or "container" of an action had a word ending in "-ero(a)" and the French "-ier(e)". Cafetera, cafetiere. Can't figure out "barero(a), or "barier(e), though. Still, just reading your message brought to mind "boulevardier". What would a "boulevardiste" do. (boulevardist?) |
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