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Bob G - 26 Feb 2008 21:51 GMT Clinton: "Day One".
Obama: "Yes we can" or "Yes, we can".
McCain: "My friends, another hundred years".
Huckabee: "March on, Christian soldiers! (I'm just kidding)".
Nader: "Hey, look at me!".
R H Draney - 26 Feb 2008 22:32 GMT Bob G filted:
>Clinton: "Day One". > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Nader: "Hey, look at me!". Too bad so many dropped out:
Edwards: "Hey, look at my hair!" Kucinich: "Hey, look at my wife!" Giuliani: "Nine eleven." or "Hey, don't look at my hair!" Romney: "Marking time until the Rapture." Thompson: "The role I was born to play." Richardson: "Mi nacion es su nacion." Ron Paul: "Everybody's second choice." Duncan Hunter: "Is this the line to get pie?"
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Skitt - 26 Feb 2008 22:42 GMT > Bob G filted:
>> Clinton: "Day One". >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Ron Paul: "Everybody's second choice." > Duncan Hunter: "Is this the line to get pie?" Isn't Gravel still there to be kicked around?
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Robert Lieblich - 26 Feb 2008 23:35 GMT [ ... ]
> Isn't Gravel still there to be kicked around? I think he's been paved over but hasn't noticed.
BTW, Mike Gravel lives in the same condo-apartment building I do (true), and he's a very nice guy. I don't know him well enough to ask why he decided to run for president, and I can't begin to guess his motives, but I do know he never deluded himself that he'd be elected. His wife, whose first name is Whitney (true), would make a fine first lady. Too bad first ladies can't run separately.
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Skitt - 26 Feb 2008 23:48 GMT > [ ... ] > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > His wife, whose first name is Whitney (true), would make a fine first > lady. Too bad first ladies can't run separately. Whitney was the name of my brother's former wife's infant daughter (from a previous relationship). I'm talking 1968, or so.
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Maria C. - 27 Feb 2008 17:58 GMT >> [ ... ] >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > daughter > (from a previous relationship). I'm talking 1968, or so. Are you suggesting that your sister-in-law's daughter may now be Whitney Gravel? Or are you just making a name connection?
If a connection: Detroit has a David Whitney Building. And my cousin owns a gravel pit.
Also, there's that Whitney who recorded a song that Dolly Parton wrote. Not only do we have the CD, but some of my cousins* went to school with Dolly Parton.
*Not the gravel pit cousin. He lives in Michigan.
Maria C., who goes off on tangents very easily.
Skitt - 27 Feb 2008 18:51 GMT >>> [ ... ] >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > now be Whitney Gravel? Or are you just making a name > connection? I was responding to the perceived implication that Whitney is (omigosh, I almost used THAT word) unusual for a girl or woman.
> If a connection: Detroit has a David Whitney Building. And > my cousin owns a gravel pit. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Maria C., who goes off on tangents very easily. Tangentially, Maria, your line lengths are set too short. See how that chopped up Bob's post? I use 76 as my setting, and that seems to work fairly well.
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Maria C. - 27 Feb 2008 23:02 GMT > Tangentially, Maria, your line lengths are set too short. > See how that > chopped up Bob's post? I use 76 as my setting, and that > seems to work > fairly well. Thanks. I had them set for 72 but have reset them at 76, just for you. Let's see how that works.
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Maria C. - 27 Feb 2008 23:05 GMT >> Tangentially, Maria, your line lengths are set too short. >> See how that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks. I had them set for 72 but have reset them at 76, > just for you. Let's see how that works. Actually, I had them set for 72 in QuoteFix, but 60 in Outlook newsgroup settings. Now the setting is 76 in both.
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Skitt - 28 Feb 2008 00:39 GMT >>> Tangentially, Maria, your line lengths are set too short. >>> See how that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Actually, I had them set for 72 in QuoteFix, but 60 in Outlook > newsgroup settings. Now the setting is 76 in both. There you go!
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Reinhold (Rey) Aman - 28 Feb 2008 04:05 GMT [snipped to the essentials]
> >>> BTW, Mike Gravel lives in the same condo-apartment > >>> building I do > >>> (true), and he's a very nice guy. I don't know him well > >>> enough to [...]
> Tangentially, Maria, your line lengths are set too short. See how that > chopped up Bob's post? I use 76 as my setting, and that seems to work > fairly well. In all the mail/newsgroup applications (and browsers) I've used and use, the *default* and recommended line length is *72* characters per line.
Lines starting out with 76 or higher get badly chopped up once they're quoted several times, because of the additional >> > >> marks.
There are at least two cretins (Full Professors of English) on the "ADS-List" who use no set line length, which causes their lines to be three to five times the width of a screen (necessitating annoying multiple horizontal scrolling). In other words, their paragraphs turn into one single 3- or 4-foot-long line of 250 to 500+ characters!
These tenured morons are in the same class of imbeciles who mail or post .jpgs of 300K to 5MB that would look just fine if they were reduced to 60K. Using their cameras but not their brains, these dipshits set (extremely) high resolutions that are needed for printing photos in glossy high-quality publications but are a total waste of pixels on computer monitors.
Thank you, I feel better now.
~~~ Reinhold (Rey) Aman ~~~
Pat Durkin - 28 Feb 2008 04:18 GMT > [snipped to the essentials] > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Thank you, I feel better now. Good. Don't want you to bust. Those cretins get their email free, I suppose, and most probably the university has cable, so they have no concept of economy.
Nick Spalding - 28 Feb 2008 11:38 GMT Reinhold (Rey) Aman wrote, in <47C6330B.48B9F978@sonic.net> on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:05:40 -0800:
> [snipped to the essentials] > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > multiple horizontal scrolling). In other words, their paragraphs turn > into one single 3- or 4-foot-long line of 250 to 500+ characters! Does Mozilla not give you a wrap function?
> These tenured morons are in the same class of imbeciles who mail or post > .jpgs of 300K to 5MB that would look just fine if they were reduced to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ~~~ Reinhold (Rey) Aman ~~~  Signature Nick Spalding BrE/IrE
Lars Enderin - 28 Feb 2008 16:57 GMT Nick Spalding skrev:
> Reinhold (Rey) Aman wrote, in <47C6330B.48B9F978@sonic.net> > on Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:05:40 -0800: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Does Mozilla not give you a wrap function? Rey seems to use an old version (4.75) of Mozilla. I have not used Mozilla as a Usenet/Mail client for years. I use Thunderbird (2.0.0.6), which was separated from the Mozilla web client a long time ago.
Reinhold (Rey) Aman - 28 Feb 2008 19:03 GMT > Nick Spalding skrev: >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Does Mozilla not give you a wrap function? The new one, yes.
> Rey seems to use an old version (4.75) of Mozilla. I have not used > Mozilla as a Usenet/Mail client for years. I use Thunderbird (2.0.0.6), > which was separated from the Mozilla web client a long time ago. My favorite is a PowerMac 8600/300 MHz, with Netscape 4.75 for browsing, mail and newsgroups. I can line-wrap using Internet Explorer 5.1 to outsmart the tenured cretins.
But I also have a 1.4 MHz PowerMac with Firefox 2.0.0.11 and Thunderbird and Safari and Netscape 7.1, which I only use when the old Mac can't display those shitty websites loaded with all sorts of javascript and applets and flash this-or-that and other gimmicks.
I'm posting this with Netscape 7.1 from my fast Mac and have no idea what'll turn up on your screen, line-length-wise.
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Robert Bannister - 29 Feb 2008 00:31 GMT > My favorite is a PowerMac 8600/300 MHz, with Netscape 4.75 for browsing, > mail and newsgroups. I can line-wrap using Internet Explorer 5.1 to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'm posting this with Netscape 7.1 from my fast Mac and have no idea > what'll turn up on your screen, line-length-wise. All versions 4 of Netscape were deeply flawed. Versions 7 are fine.
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Skitt - 28 Feb 2008 18:02 GMT > [snipped to the essentials]
>>>>> BTW, Mike Gravel lives in the same condo-apartment >>>>> building I do [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > ~~~ Reinhold (Rey) Aman ~~~ Oh, OK, I just checked. I was wrong in recommending a 76 setting. While my OE is set at 76, my QF is set at 72, and the latter appears to be the limiting factor. Counting what I saw in your post and quoted material, I see that 73 characters (including the > mark and its space) were allowed in one of the quoted lines of my text.
It also seems that QF reformats quoted text to fit the line length limits. Observe the above-quoted text starting with "Tangentially". I did not reformat that paragraph, but it surely is reformatted.
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Maria C. - 28 Feb 2008 19:47 GMT Skitt wrote, to Rey who recommended a line length of 72:
> Oh, OK, I just checked. I was wrong in recommending a 76 > setting. While my OE is set at 76, my QF is set at 72, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > its space) were allowed in one of the quoted lines of my > text. And I've returned to 72, both in QF and OE.
Thanks to Rey and to you for this discussion.
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Skitt - 28 Feb 2008 20:21 GMT > Skitt wrote, to Rey who recommended a line length of 72:
>> Oh, OK, I just checked. I was wrong in recommending a 76 >> setting. While my OE is set at 76, my QF is set at 72, and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks to Rey and to you for this discussion. I see that something has gone wrong -- your line lengths appear to be set at 60.
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Maria C. - 29 Feb 2008 04:18 GMT >> Skitt wrote, to Rey who recommended a line length of 72: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I see that something has gone wrong -- your line lengths appear to be > set at 60. I was about to say "I give up," but then I checked my OE setting, and saw that it was set for 60. I distinctly remember setting it at 72. But... I recall setting it at 72 only for news, and not for email. It seems they /both/ have to be set at the same number or the change doesn't take effect. Sheesh.
If this latest change doesn't work, I don't want to know it.
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Murray Arnow - 28 Feb 2008 20:22 GMT >Skitt wrote, to Rey who recommended a line length of 72: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Thanks to Rey and to you for this discussion. I've been using 74-character line-lengths since almost forever. I missed any complaints about it.
Jeffrey Turner - 28 Feb 2008 17:42 GMT >>> [ ... ] >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Maria C., who goes off on tangents very easily. The senator's name is pronounce gruh-VELL.
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Maria C. - 28 Feb 2008 20:00 GMT >> Are you suggesting that your sister-in-law's daughter may >> now be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The senator's name is pronounce gruh-VELL. Which brings to mind Mr. RabBIT, Mr. TurTELL, and Lewis GrizZARD.
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Skitt - 28 Feb 2008 20:27 GMT >>> Are you suggesting that your sister-in-law's daughter may >>> now be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Which brings to mind Mr. RabBIT, Mr. TurTELL, and Lewis > GrizZARD. And my late relative (by ex-marriage), Father VizZARD.
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Mike Lyle - 28 Feb 2008 22:13 GMT >>>> Are you suggesting that your sister-in-law's daughter may >>>> now be [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > And my late relative (by ex-marriage), Father VizZARD. Another of my pet peeves. As an affectation, it doesn't even have the redeeming looniness of Smith, spelt "Smyth" and pronounced /smaIT/. The late lamented Ray Gravell, one of the Welsh Gravells, was pronounced [gr@VEL] in English and, by himself at any rate, plain honest [GRAvel] in Welsh. Go figure.
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Skitt - 28 Feb 2008 23:13 GMT >>>>> Are you suggesting that your sister-in-law's daughter may >>>>> now be [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > pronounced [gr@VEL] in English and, by himself at any rate, plain > honest [GRAvel] in Welsh. Go figure. Mike Gravel, the one who is running for president, has French-Canadian roots.
Vizzard was my second wife's mother's maiden name. Father Vizzard (a Jesuit who looked out for the RC Church's interests in Washington, DC) and Jack Vizzard (a Hollywood movie censor, who wrote a book about it) were the mother's brothers. It was because of them that my second wife visited with the Kennedys and played balloon volleyball with James Dean on a movie set.
The book the censor wrote is "See No Evil."
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Nehmo - 27 Feb 2008 14:17 GMT Kucinich: "Hey, look at my wife!" http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/a/adams_amy/AmyAdams_Grani_6800396_Max.jpg
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