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Marius Hancu - 28 Feb 2008 01:36 GMT
Hello:

The "of its kind" in the last sentence is quite tricky, to me at least.

I am not sure it means
"in itself"
but that what I'd have in the context.

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The time so melted away, that our early dinner-hour drew close at hand,
and Estella left us to prepare herself. We had stopped near the centre
of the long table, and Miss Havisham, with one of her withered arms
stretched out of the chair, rested that clenched hand upon the yellow
cloth. As Estella looked back over her shoulder before going out at the
door, Miss Havisham kissed that hand to her, with a ravenous intensity
that was of its kind quite dreadful.

Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, p. 357
http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Dickens/Expect/Expect29_4.htm
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Lars Eighner - 28 Feb 2008 01:53 GMT
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> Hello:

> The "of its kind" in the last sentence is quite tricky, to me at least.

> I am not sure it means
> "in itself"
> but that what I'd have in the context.

It means "in comparison with others like it."  On the guess that the
antecedent of "its" is "intensity," Miss H's intensity was among the most
dreadful of intensities (even if the other ravenous intensities are fairly
dreadful or the opposite).

A rose that is of its kind blue, may not be very blue, but is bluer than
other roses of the variety, and on the hand, if it is of its kind red, it is
among the reddest, which may be very red.  I suppose that all ravenous
intensities are somewhat dreadful, so in this case, it is the worst of the
worst.

> -----
> The time so melted away, that our early dinner-hour drew close at hand,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> door, Miss Havisham kissed that hand to her, with a ravenous intensity
> that was of its kind quite dreadful.

> Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, p. 357
> http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Dickens/Expect/Expect29_4.htm
> -----

> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu
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Marius Hancu - 28 Feb 2008 02:14 GMT
> It means "in comparison with others like it."  On the guess that the
> antecedent of "its" is "intensity," Miss H's intensity was among the most
> dreadful of intensities (even if the other ravenous intensities are fairly
> dreadful or the opposite).

I thought about it, but couldn't quite believe it ... it seemed a bit
exagerated.

Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Mike Lyle - 28 Feb 2008 18:22 GMT
>> It means "in comparison with others like it."  On the guess that the
>> antecedent of "its" is "intensity," Miss H's intensity was among the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I thought about it, but couldn't quite believe it ... it seemed a bit
> exagerated.

What? Dickens exaggerate? What a preposterous suggestion!

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Robin Bignall - 29 Feb 2008 22:35 GMT
>>> It means "in comparison with others like it."  On the guess that the
>>> antecedent of "its" is "intensity," Miss H's intensity was among the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>What? Dickens exaggerate? What a preposterous suggestion!

Please sir, may I have some more?
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