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At a meeting in Mexico this past week, George Bush told Scott Reid, top aide to Canadian PM Paul Martin that he had a "pretty face." I was surprised that Bush would describe a male as "pretty." Is this a common designation for males in Texas? >At a meeting in Mexico this past week, George Bush told Scott Reid, >top aide to Canadian PM Paul Martin that he had a "pretty face." I was >surprised that Bush would describe a male as "pretty." Is this a >common designation for males in Texas? Texans usually reserve such compliments for horses. Martin doesn't have a particular long face or well-formed muzzle, does he? > >At a meeting in Mexico this past week, George Bush told Scott Reid, > >top aide to Canadian PM Paul Martin that he had a "pretty face." I was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Texans usually reserve such compliments for horses. Martin doesn't > have a particular long face or well-formed muzzle, does he? It was not Martin but his aide that Dubya complemented for having a "pretty face" but one thing that Martin has going for himself in Bush's eyes is that he didn't get along with Chretien. >>At a meeting in Mexico this past week, George Bush told Scott Reid, >>top aide to Canadian PM Paul Martin that he had a "pretty face." I was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Texans usually reserve such compliments for horses. Martin doesn't >have a particular long face or well-formed muzzle, does he? With that schnozz of yours, you have a pretty face then, señor. It's 'particularly long', by the way.  SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net Bye, guys. I won't be coming back this time. With the increasingly dumbed-down look of AUE, and with the hundred things I have to do these days, I simply don't have the time and patience for posts as boring as the ones to this newsgroup have become. With good luck to the good ones here and bad luck to the bad ones, I'm outta here. Charles CHANGE@aircom.net wrote: > Bye, guys. I won't be coming back this time. With the increasingly > dumbed-down look of AUE, and with the hundred things I have to do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Charles Good luck to wherever you're headed, Charles. I guess, our loss will now be their loss. >CHANGE@aircom.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Good luck to wherever you're headed, Charles. France, eventually. Where else? Where are you headed, you bleeding a.shole? >I guess, our loss will now >be their loss. Yes indeed: I plan to drink all their wine, smoke all their cigarettes, and f.ck as many French women who will allow it, energy levels taken into consideration. No comma after 'guess', by the way, you faceless nonentity. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > Yes indeed: I plan to drink all their wine, smoke all their > cigarettes, and f.ck as many French women who will allow it ... Two outta three ain't bad, Charles. SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com >> Yes indeed: I plan to drink all their wine, smoke all their >> cigarettes, and f.ck as many French women who will allow it ... > >Two outta three ain't bad, Charles. I forgot to mention I plan to eat all their cheese. Two out of three ain't bad, but three out of four is better. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > Bye, guys. I won't be coming back this time. With the increasingly > dumbed-down look of AUE, and with the hundred things I have to do > these days, I simply don't have the time and patience for posts as > boring as the ones to this newsgroup have become. Are people allowed to just leave like this? Isn't there paperwork to be filled out? I don't approve at _all_. SignatureSML, angry that the trolls are winning ess el five six zero at columbia dot edu <http://pirate-women.com> > SML, angry that the trolls are winning Oh, come off it. The trolls have won nothing. AUE lost some and gained some; that's life. > > SML, angry that the trolls are winning > > Oh, come off it. "Angry" was too strong -- "annoyed" is better. > The trolls have won nothing. AUE lost some and gained > some; that's life. We've gained DE781 and lost Charles. That's not an improvement. However, I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring threads that drove Charles away. SignatureSML ess el five six zero at columbia dot edu <http://pirate-women.com> >We've gained DE781 and lost Charles. That's not an improvement. However, >I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring >threads that drove Charles away. Boring threads can be killed, but there'snot any solution for a lack of interesting threads. Too bad. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Signature"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com >>We've gained DE781 and lost Charles. That's not an improvement. However, >>I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring >>threads that drove Charles away. > >Boring threads can be killed, but there'snot any solution for a lack >of interesting threads. Too bad. I agree to an extent, Spehro. Some of the blame for the lack must fall on us, however, for it is up to us to either start interesting threads or encourage the ones that already are. I've tried, in vain, to discourage the ones that aren't, such as those on road signs and zip codes, but that is probably pissing in the wind. I don't think I'll do so anymore, but I will attempt to start conversations on things I hope will be interesting. My yardstick, though, must remain largely my own, as with everyone else. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net On 19 Jan 2004, Sara Lorimer wrote -snip- > We've gained DE781 and lost Charles. That's not an improvement. > However, I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series > of boring threads that drove Charles away. The most curious thing -- to my mind -- is that if I retrieve the "previous message" for Charles's leaving-the-group post, it goes to Tony's post in the "pretty face" thread. That thread struck me as entirely on-topic, and Tony's post -- which raised the possibility that the Texan usage referred to a horsey- looking person -- also seemed on-topic. Strange, that. SignatureCheers, Harvey Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years; Southern England for the past 21 years. (for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs) > > > SML, angry that the trolls are winning > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring > threads that drove Charles away. Why do you think Charles leaving is a loss? Have you read his posts for the past few years. They were frequently not topical and illogical -- I don't give a sh.t about is opinions of Gateway Computers or if his computer mouse died. He started scolding people for non-support. He has whined about his afflictions and subjected us to drunken tirades. He has gone out of his way to alienate people. Somehow all the threads he entered quickly revolved about him. Charles was very close to my definition of a troll. Ok, I know he's a depressive. But he has become obnoxious and intolerable. He should have left long ago, cleaned up his problems and, if he wanted, returned. What we got instead is this egocentric cry for sympathy in a good-bye announcement with another slap at AUEers. He'll probably return. I hope when he does the chip will be off his shoulder. >> > > SML, angry that the trolls are winning >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Why do you think Charles leaving is a loss? Perhaps because I've made, or have at least tried to make, a number of worthwhile, or just entertaining, contributions to this newsgroup over the years. I have spent a good deal of time and effort doing so. Your posts, on the other hand, are not memorable. Who here knows anything about you or your thoughts? I do know you write poorly, from the few times I've even noticed what you've written. I can understand your envy, Mr Arrow, but that doesn't make it any more laudable. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net CHANGE@aircom.net wrote: > Perhaps because I've made, or have at least tried to make, a number of > worthwhile, or just entertaining, contributions to this newsgroup over [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I can understand your envy, Mr Arrow, but that doesn't make it any > more laudable. Mr Arrow is not too surprised at seeing your return, Charles. Broken promises from drunks are to be expected. Charles, I too am bored with you. Your endless posts about your life's minutia are of no interest to me. I think about the only thing we will agree to is that neither of us should expend any effort with the other. Prosit, Mr Arrow >Charles, I too am bored with you. Your endless posts about your life's >minutia are of no interest to me. I, on the other hand, find the boil on my a.s substantially more interesting than I find you. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > [...] > Mr Arrow is not too surprised at seeing your return, Charles. Broken > promises from drunks are to be expected. [...] Padraig continues to surprise me, being the only one so far to actually carry out the threat. I respect that. Shame though, since his is the only dramatic exit that didn't tickle a secret wish within me. What's with this recent spate? I count CJ, YJ, now Riggs. As for these others, I've been sitting on my a.s instead of trying to get newsreader developers to implement "Ignore Sub-Thread". The Diane Chambers' exits have given me hope, but it's no use, is it? > won't be coming back this time I guess "this time" is the phrase that should tip me off. And flip-side to Padraig, these pens Orions seems to have vanished without a dramatic exit -- no bang, not even a whimper. Not that I complain. But I ramble, SignatureWillondon AUE FAQ http://www.alt-usage-english.org/intro_a.shtml >> > SML, angry that the trolls are winning >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring >threads that drove Charles away. Charles frequently blamed the decline and fall of aue on me. He made several, very bitter, posts indicating that my arrival in aue signaled the end of all that was good about aue. I don't recall him every blaming Joey or anyone else. I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset by my presence, but quit worrying about it long ago. I think there be demons. I suggest that we retire the topic of electric teakettles in the same spirit that a sports team retires the jersey number of an athlete who gives up the game. It's the least we can do. T*ny "The Toilet" C**per wrote: [...] > Charles frequently blamed the decline and fall of aue on me. He > made several, very bitter, posts indicating that my arrival in aue > signaled the end of all that was good about aue. I don't recall > him every blaming Joey or anyone else. That's because neither Young Joey nor anyone else here is a vicious, obnoxious, pathologically obsessed cocksucker like you, MeMe II. > I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel > remarkably guilt-free. Naturally. Just as incompetent workers are oblivious of their incompetence, you vicious, obnoxious, pathologically obsessed cocksucker don't recognize your viciousness and obnoxiousness. SignatureReinhold (Rey) Aman Reinhold, the jowly joker, tottered out for some ass-kicking saying: >T*ny "The Toilet" C**per wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >That's because neither Young Joey nor anyone else here is a vicious, >obnoxious, pathologically obsessed cocksucker like you, MeMe II. I am absolutely delighted that you and Young Joey have found each other. You have finally found someone of the mental age group and intellectual capacity that finds your ghetto granddad writing to be exciting and novel. Joey has finally found someone in the group that has something to say that he can understand without looking up the words. You don't write anything that can't be found on the average public restroom wall, so your posts don't tax poor Joey's brain. >> I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >> remarkably guilt-free. > >Naturally. Just as incompetent workers are oblivious of their >incompetence, you vicious, obnoxious, pathologically obsessed cocksucker >don't recognize your viciousness and obnoxiousness. Yes, but Charles was talking about boring posts. My vicious, obnoxious, pathological cocksucker-stalking posts are not boring. Don't get your dewlaps in a flap, though, even though Padraig and Charles are not around you can still ask me out to play. You'll always have someone. Tony Cooper: > Reinhold, the jowly joker, tottered out for some ass-kicking saying: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Charles are not around you can still ask me out to play. You'll > always have someone. Friendly here, aren't you? Signaturethe Omrud === [..] > Friendly here, aren't you? > > -- > the Omrud > === The Omrud are very sensitive to sunlight and, it would seem, certain types of newsgroup posts. You might be better off staying underground! :-) SignatureChristopher (Change 3032 to 3232 to reply by private e-mail) Christopher Johnson: > > [..] [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The Omrud are very sensitive to sunlight and, it > would seem, certain types of newsgroup posts. We are, but we can emerge and read when covered by a darkened glass jar. > You might be better off staying underground! :-) It's OK, I have my glass jar in place. Signaturethe Omrud === >Reinhold, the jowly joker, tottered out for some ass-kicking saying: > >>T*ny "The Toilet" C**per wrote: >>> I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>> remarkably guilt-free. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Yes, but Charles was talking about boring posts. My vicious, >obnoxious, pathological cocksucker-stalking posts are not boring. When you and RF ramble on endlessly about street signs or other trivial Americana, they approach boring closely enough to be labeled as such. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset >by my presence, but quit worrying about it long ago. I think there be >demons. I have never quite figured out why those who hate your guts (and there are some who make it obvious that they do) get so rabid about it. I guess that you're better at making them look like the mean-minded, vicious idiots that they are, with humour, than most who try to respond. (And yes, I've already read your post immediately following the one to which I'm responding.) Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England >>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > they are, with humour, than most who try to respond. (And yes, I've already > read your post immediately following the one to which I'm responding.) If you actually paid attention, perhaps you would have picked these things up. You just continue to believe C**per the most erudite thing in the history of the world, and we will continue to discount your opinion as that of a gun-waving loonie. SignatureSimon R. Hughes >>>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > erudite thing in the history of the world, and we will continue > to discount your opinion as that of a gun-waving loonie. Strange how your "we" are so much in the minority. There're only three of you left now, and only one of those do I enjoy reading posts from. SignatureRob Bannister >>>>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>>>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Strange how your "we" are so much in the minority. There're only three >of you left now, and only one of those do I enjoy reading posts from. Yes. I think I prefer to have the reputation of a gun-waving loony (note the BrE spelling) than of a bitter, twisted person who can never write anything pleasant about anyone. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > Yes. I think I prefer to have the reputation of a gun-waving loony (note > the BrE spelling) than of a bitter, twisted person who can never write > anything pleasant about anyone. Looks like you're suffering from the same narrow field of vision as Charles. Nothing like making up the truth as you go along, is there, Robbie? SignatureSimon R. Hughes > Looks like you're suffering from the same narrow field of vision > as Charles ... I'm e-mailing this outrageous sentiment to Charles immediately. Simon, have you no shame? SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com >> Looks like you're suffering from the same narrow field of vision >> as Charles ... > >I'm e-mailing this outrageous sentiment to Charles immediately. No need, Armond, but thanks for the thought. >Simon, have >you no shame? Not even if he were able to reformat my hard drive, I suspect. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > "Armond Perretta" <newsgroupreader@REMOVEcomcast.net> wrote:> >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > No need, Armond, but thanks for the thought. Charles, I'm so relieved to see you back. I guess there really wasn't a wolf. SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com >> Looks like you're suffering from the same narrow field of vision >> as Charles ... > > I'm e-mailing this outrageous sentiment to Charles immediately. Simon, have > you no shame? I would apologise to Charles, of course; but he's left for good, never to darken our doorway again. Oh well. SignatureSimon R. Hughes >> Yes. I think I prefer to have the reputation of a gun-waving loony (note >> the BrE spelling) than of a bitter, twisted person who can never write >> anything pleasant about anyone. > >Looks like you're suffering from the same narrow field of vision >as Charles. Face it, Simon: you're a pessimist's pessimist and a whiner's whiner. How a person so young got that way is anyone's guess. >Nothing like making up the truth as you go along, is >there, Robbie? The truth hurts sometimes. Robin, along with some others, has your number. Too bad you couldn't have stuck with Tony-bashing, but you had to go and bash everyone and everything, `cepting dear olde Norway of course. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >>>>>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>>>>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset >>>>>by my presence, but quit worrying about it long ago. I think there be >>>>>demons. Indeed. I call my demons by name: 'proliferating rednecks'. Bush, you, and others of that clan will undoubtedly be the death of me yet. I'm outta Chantilly, Virginia, but am in deep kimchi still. Up with John Kerry, though. As for being remarkably guilt-free -- a remarkably Simonesque expression from you -- for being the cause of my brief absence, note that your name wasn't mentioned in my farewell address. I was thinking more of DE781, or whatever his number, and the posts his 'thoughts' have inspired, when mentioning the dumbing down of AUE as the cause of my dismay. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >>>>>>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>>>>>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >expression from you -- for being the cause of my brief absence, note >that your name wasn't mentioned in my farewell address. Well, not in the *last* one. I was thinking of Version 2.1. Simon, the royal pain in the a.s, wrote: >>>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >erudite thing in the history of the world, and we will continue >to discount your opinion as that of a gun-waving loonie. I am once again forced to compliment you against my will. The above is such a clever tie-in to the "royal we" thread that it bears recognition. We *are* amused. >>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I have never quite figured out why those who hate your guts (and there are >some who make it obvious that they do) get so rabid about it. You can't be referring to me for I've never hated any part of the man, let alone his intestines, which I know almost nothing about. I do get angry when he doesn't own up to his errors or when he shows a lack of respect for language. I've made that plain from Day One. I'd be happier with him, too, if he spent more time listening, for that is how one learns, and less time talking, but who am I? SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >>>I'm a bit sad to see Charles go - if he is truly gone - but feel >>>remarkably guilt-free. I never quite figured out why he was so upset [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >happier with him, too, if he spent more time listening, for that is >how one learns, and less time talking, but who am I? I certainly did not have you in mind when I posted that, Charles. I'm glad you're still with us. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England >I suggest that we retire the topic of electric teakettles in the same >spirit that a sports team retires the jersey number of an athlete who >gives up the game. It's the least we can do. Not that, please. In preparation for my move, I'm getting rid of 82% of what currently clutters up my flat, but the electric teakettle most definitely stays...then goes along. Few topics are of greater significance in this day and age than that of electric teakettles. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > Not that, please. In preparation for my move, I'm getting rid of > 82% of what currently clutters up my flat, but the electric > teakettle most definitely stays...then goes along. Yeah, but will you be able to easily use it in France? New home, new life. When you get there, buy yourself a new electric tea kettle on me. Consider it a housewarming gift. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. >> Not that, please. In preparation for my move, I'm getting rid of >> 82% of what currently clutters up my flat, but the electric >> teakettle most definitely stays...then goes along. > >Yeah, but will you be able to easily use it in France? Relatively easily. It's almost the same voltage, is the same frequency, but he'll need to change the plug if Irish plugs are like the square-pinned English ones. >New home, new life. When you get there, buy yourself a new electric >tea kettle on me. Consider it a housewarming gift. Wow. And if I return to France? Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > Wow. And if I return to France? You're not allowed to return to France. I don't want to visit you in France. I want to visit you in England. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. >> Wow. And if I return to France? > >You're not allowed to return to France. I don't want to visit you in >France. I want to visit you in England. We can't move while J's mum is still with us, so you can take advantage of cheap fares by booking a decade or two ahead. She looks capable of outliving all of us. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England >> Not that, please. In preparation for my move, I'm getting rid of >> 82% of what currently clutters up my flat, but the electric >> teakettle most definitely stays...then goes along. > >Yeah, but will you be able to easily use it in France? I may have some difficulty finding the variety of Bewley's I like -- you know the one; otherwise there should be no problem. I'll buy the tea over the Web if I must. Artichokes, which I like even more than I like tea, will be no problem at all. >New home, new life. When you get there, buy yourself a new electric >tea kettle on me. Consider it a housewarming gift. I may just do that. Deciding what to take, what is best sold, and what should simply be tossed out is a puzzle I'll be working on over the next few months. Everything, unless FedEx is cheaper than I suspect it is, must fit into four large suitcase loads plus two large rucksack loads. That's enough stuff anyway, I reckon. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >> > SML, angry that the trolls are winning >> >> Oh, come off it. > >"Angry" was too strong -- "annoyed" is better. Stick with anger, Sara. Good to let such things out. :-) >> The trolls have won nothing. AUE lost some and gained >> some; that's life. > >We've gained DE781 and lost Charles. That's not an improvement. However, >I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring >threads that drove Charles away. No, you hit the nail on the head. I wish avoiding his posts would solve the problem. Perhaps some day it will, once others join Mr Bob in seeing what a waste of time it is to respond to the boy. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, in alt.usage.english, Charles Riggs <CHANGE@aircom.net> writes >>We've gained DE781 and lost Charles. That's not an improvement. However, >>I might be projecting -- perhaps it was some other series of boring [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >solve the problem. Perhaps some day it will, once others join Mr Bob >in seeing what a waste of time it is to respond to the boy. I have responded to far too many of YJ's posts. This post of yours has completed to inclination that I had. No more, I say. SignatureMark Browne If replying by email, please use the "Reply-To" address, as the "From" address will be rejected >On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, in alt.usage.english, Charles Riggs ><CHANGE@aircom.net> writes [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I have responded to far too many of YJ's posts. This post of yours has >completed to inclination that I had. No more, I say. Me too. I did it again only yesterday. The combination of the outrageous views and the celebration of ignorance is almost irresitible. Call him a *highly* successful troll. SignatureDon Aitken Mail to the addresses given in the headers is no longer being read. To mail me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com". >>On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, in alt.usage.english, Charles Riggs >><CHANGE@aircom.net> writes [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >outrageous views and the celebration of ignorance is almost >irresitible. Call him a *highly* successful troll. I sometimes wonder how I would have been had Usenet and AUE existed when I was in my late teens / early twenties. I may have been polite on the outside but I had not lived long enough to cure myself of intellectual arrogance. My personal view is that Joey's heart is pretty sound and all he lacks is a decade or three of living. It's just too easy for people to criticise him from the other side of 40 after having had excellent educations and lots of experience. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, in alt.usage.english, Dr Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com> writes >I sometimes wonder how I would have been had Usenet and AUE existed when I >was in my late teens / early twenties. I may have been polite on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >criticise him from the other side of 40 after having had excellent >educations and lots of experience. Perhaps. My own opinion is rather less generous. YJ does not seem to have the urge to learn, while being derisive about other peoples knowledge of his own "specialities". I must agree with Don that he is a successful troll. SignatureMark Browne If replying by email, please use the "Reply-To" address, as the "From" address will be rejected >> SML, angry that the trolls are winning > >Oh, come off it. The trolls have won nothing. AUE lost some and gained >some; that's life. Spoken like a true nonentity, ineffective against everything it tries to contemplate or understand. Real people take action, my Witless Wonder. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > With good luck to the good ones here and bad luck to the bad ones, > I'm outta here. Good luck to you, Charles. I hope you find what you're looking for. SignatureDena Jo Delete "delete.this.for.email" for email. } On 18 Jan 2004, Charles Riggs posted thus: } }> With good luck to the good ones here and bad luck to the bad ones, }> I'm outta here. } } Good luck to you, Charles. I hope you find what you're looking for. Maybe it's off to the post office in Castlebar with him to see if there are any post cards waiting for him. I know I haven't gotten my back. Nor have I gotten the least acknowledgment from Mr. Riggs that he put as much effort into his experiment as I did. SignatureR. J. Valentine <mailto:laurel-md@wicked.smart.net> >} On 18 Jan 2004, Charles Riggs posted thus: >} [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >have I gotten the least acknowledgment from Mr. Riggs that he put as much >effort into his experiment as I did. I didn't receive an acknowledgement for my package, either. Some people. Sheesh. >>} On 18 Jan 2004, Charles Riggs posted thus: >>} [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >I didn't receive an acknowledgement for my package, either. Some >people. Sheesh. No package, no postcard from dissembling Valentine. I don't know what they're like in your area, but our postmen are highly reliable. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net } On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:52:07 GMT, Tony Cooper } <tony_cooper213@mungedyahoo.com> wrote: } }>On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:29:06 -0000, R J Valentine <rj@smart.net> }>wrote: }> }>>On 19 Jan 2004 15:57:38 GMT Dena Jo <TPUBGTH.delete.this.for.email@yahoo.com> wrote: }>> }>>} On 18 Jan 2004, Charles Riggs posted thus: }>>} }>>}> With good luck to the good ones here and bad luck to the bad ones, }>>}> I'm outta here. }>>} }>>} Good luck to you, Charles. I hope you find what you're looking for. }>> }>>Maybe it's off to the post office in Castlebar with him to see if there }>>are any post cards waiting for him. I know I haven't gotten my back. Nor }>>have I gotten the least acknowledgment from Mr. Riggs that he put as much }>>effort into his experiment as I did. }> }>I didn't receive an acknowledgement for my package, either. Some }>people. Sheesh. }> } } No package, no postcard from dissembling Valentine. I don't know what this "dissembling" crap is about. I mailed a post card a couple of days after the original request to "Charles Riggs, Castlebar, Ireland" with an eighty-cent air-mail international post-card stamp on it, plus a return address. I haven't gotten it back. If you want to call me a liar, out with it. } I don't know what } they're like in your area, but our postmen are highly reliable. In my area the carriers don't have access to the general-delivery cabinet. You have to step up to the counter, give them your name, and ask for your mail. I believe you when you suggest that you haven't bothered. Are there any other Castlebars in Ireland? Even in America they can traverse the seventeen or so Laurels in less time than this. Probably "V, Laurel, MD" is enough to get it to me in three days, domestically. SignatureR. J. Valentine <mailto:V-20725@wicked.smart.net> [...] > Probably "V, Laurel, MD" > is enough to get it to me in three days, domestically. Keep dreaming. SignatureReinhold (Rey) Aman } R J Valentine wrote: } } [...] } }> Probably "V, Laurel, MD" }> is enough to get it to me in three days, domestically. } } Keep dreaming. Put your stamp where your mouth is, big brother. SignatureR. J. Valentine <mailto:V-Laurel-MD@wicked.smart.net> > > [...] > >> Probably "V, Laurel, MD" > >> is enough to get it to me in three days, domestically. > > Keep dreaming. > Put your stamp where your mouth is, big brother. Why waste 23 cents on a postcard or 37 cents on a letter (1 oz)? Most postal cretins -- especially your favorite kind of the Negroid persuasion (Hi, Donna!) -- will read "V, Laurel, MD" as: V = initial Laurel = last name MD = Doctor of Medicine Thus anything addressed to "V, Laurel, MD" will be returned with the usual rubber-stamped "No Such Address" or "Insufficient Address" (i.e., no house number, no street, no city, no state, no ZIP). SignatureReinhold (Rey) Aman Who *knows* what he's talking about } R J Valentine wrote: } } }> > R J Valentine wrote: } }> > [...] } }> >> Probably "V, Laurel, MD" }> >> is enough to get it to me in three days, domestically. } }> > Keep dreaming. } }> Put your stamp where your mouth is, big brother. } } Why waste 23 cents on a postcard or 37 cents on a letter (1 oz)? You want the 23 cents or 37 cents back? Say the word, Rey. Think you can trust me for it? } Most } postal cretins -- especially your favorite kind of the Negroid } persuasion (Hi, Donna!) -- will read "V, Laurel, MD" as: } } V = initial } Laurel = last name } MD = Doctor of Medicine Could very well be. That _is_ possible. If you want to make it easy for them, put the "V" on a line all its own. } Thus anything addressed to "V, Laurel, MD" will be returned with the } usual rubber-stamped "No Such Address" or "Insufficient Address" (i.e., } no house number, no street, no city, no state, no ZIP). Only if there is a return address. } -- } Reinhold (Rey) Aman } Who *knows* what he's talking about SignatureR. J. Valentine <mailto:V-Laurel-MD@wicked.smart.net> Who (despite all appearances) knows a thing or two, too. >[...] > >> Probably "V, Laurel, MD" >> is enough to get it to me in three days, domestically. > >Keep dreaming. Only if lying is dreaming. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >} No package, no postcard from dissembling Valentine. > >I don't know what this "dissembling" crap is about. I mailed a post card >a couple of days after the original request to "Charles Riggs, Castlebar, >Ireland" with an eighty-cent air-mail international post-card stamp on it, >plus a return address. I haven't gotten it back. Since you attach so much significance to your alleged effort, I'll check out your story. The walk will be good for the boil on my a.s anyway. >If you want to call me a liar, out with it. I'll wait until I talk with the postmaster, but you shouldn't have to wait for me to call you that, on this question, for more than a day or two. If, on the other hand, I've accused you unjustly, I'll apologize. Your track record for disseminating 'facts' relating to Ireland and Castlebar is not a good one, I hope you realize. Gibberish is what we've come to expect from you, as even your fan Cooper acknowledges. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net [...] > I know I haven't gotten my back. In that case, I'll have to stop calling you "Quasimodo." SignatureReinhold (Rey) Aman Get off my back } R J Valentine wrote: } } [...] } }> I know I haven't gotten my back. } } In that case, I'll have to stop calling you "Quasimodo." Good catch. I was wrong; you are right. SignatureR. J. Valentine <mailto:kow@wicked.smart.net> >> With good luck to the good ones here and bad luck to the bad ones, >> I'm outta here. > >Good luck to you, Charles. I hope you find what you're looking for. Thank you, Dena. I know you honestly mean that. I have high hopes for my new life in Angers, or wherever in France, not that I have any serious problems with the town I'm in now. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net "Charles Riggs" <CHANGE@aircom.net> wrote... > I have high hopes for my new life in Angers, Don't go there, Charles. > or wherever in France, not that I have any > serious problems with the town I'm in now. Matti In alt.usage.english, Matti Lamprhey wrote: >"Charles Riggs" <CHANGE@aircom.net> wrote... >> I have high hopes for my new life in Angers, > >Don't go there, Charles. À Angers, le ménage monte. SignatureMickwick "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... > In alt.usage.english, Matti Lamprhey wrote: > >"Charles Riggs" <CHANGE@aircom.net> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > À Angers, le ménage monte. Quite. I suggest a ménage à Troyes instead. Matti > "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... >> In alt.usage.english, Matti Lamprhey wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Matti Yebbut, you can look back in Angers. -- John Dean Oxford De-frag to reply >> "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... >>> In alt.usage.english, Matti Lamprhey wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Yebbut, you can look back in Angers. Mores the Poitier. In alt.usage.english, Irwell wrote: >On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:58:10 -0000, "John Dean" <john- >>> Quite. I suggest a ménage à Troyes instead. Not until the two of you shave your beards off. >>Yebbut, you can look back in Angers. > >Mores the Poitier. Moors the Poitiers, shirley? (And Turks the Vienna.) SignatureMickwick > >> "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... > >>> In alt.usage.english, Matti Lamprhey wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Mores the Poitier. What's he got Toulouse? -skipka "John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote... > > "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... > >> In alt.usage.english, Matti Lamprhey wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yebbut, you can look back in Angers. I bought a raincoat there once. I call it my gaberdine Angers. Matti >"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote... >> > "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >I bought a raincoat there once. I call it my gaberdine Angers. You're all Poissy cats, really. This thread will drive Charles in Seine. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England >>"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote... >>> > "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >You're all Poissy cats, really. This thread will drive Charles in Seine. Where he can have a Nice Dieppe. On 22 Jan 2004, Irwell wrote >>> "John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote... >>>>> "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> > Where he can have a Nice Dieppe. That'll Rouen him, though. SignatureCheers, Harvey Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton for 30 years; Southern England for the past 21 years. (for e-mail, change harvey to whhvs) >On 22 Jan 2004, Irwell wrote > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >That'll Rouen him, though. May Biarritz but he has nothing Toulouse. >>"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote... >>> > "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >You're all Poissy cats, really. This thread will drive Charles in Seine. Nearly so, which is one of my many reasons for putting Angers at the top of my list: one and a half hours to Paris on the TGV. I can do that standing on my head. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net >> "Mickwick" <mickwick@use.reply.to> wrote... >>> À Angers, le ménage monte. >> >> Quite. I suggest a ménage à Troyes instead. >Yebbut, you can look back in Angers. Then again, you can have a wait in Troyes. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove number to reply >"Charles Riggs" <CHANGE@aircom.net> wrote... >> >> I have high hopes for my new life in Angers, > >Don't go there, Charles. This from a man who considers Cardiff the cat's meow. I'll give your advice all the consideration it is worth, I will. SignatureCharles Riggs Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net > Bye, guys. I won't be coming back this time ... Right. I've been steadfastly loyal to you lately, as well as I can anyway. Is this the thanks I get? SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com > Bye, guys. I won't be coming back this time. With the increasingly > dumbed-down look of AUE, and with the hundred things I have to do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Charles I posted here for the first time in the 'What does bwahahahaha mean?' thread, which you and a number of others dumbed-down with off-topic posts about shaving. It almost seemed as though you thought you were droll! It was really tedious. I hope you do f.ck off, but somehow I doubt it. BWAHAHAHAHAA Mingmong In our last episode, <feb755de.0401170728.204e70a7@posting.google.com>, the lovely and talented howard richler broadcast on alt.usage.english: > At a meeting in Mexico this past week, George Bush told Scott Reid, > top aide to Canadian PM Paul Martin that he had a "pretty face." I was > surprised that Bush would describe a male as "pretty." Is this a > common designation for males in Texas? I googled for several news accounts of this incident to be sure I understood the context. If Mr. Bush was sober it is hard to construe this remark as anything other than some kind of insult. The possibilities are: 1) Mr. Reid is not entirely a manly fellow. 2) Mr. Reid is useful only for his decorative qualities. The second has some basis in context, for Mr. Bush had just asked Mr. Reid what he did for the PM, and Mr. Reid had not provided a entirely informative answer. When I was received at the Governor's Mansion in 1996 (or was it '95?) Mrs. Bush attempted to make some remarks about my work as she greeted me, but was inadequately or inaccurately prompted by the aide at her side, and only managed to convince me she had no idea why I was there. There were, of course, upward of a hundred of the Texas literati in attendance from Larry McMurtry to Kinky Friedman. However, the young man who brought me my tea and the young woman who recharged the cup had enough to say to convince me that they had actually read the book, for they each referred to different small anecdotes that would not have been in a briefing summary. And that the servants knew me but the Bushes were oblivious is something I am very proud of. When I was speaking to the young woman, Mr. Bush suddenly said "Hi, Lars!" from across the crowded room. I hadn't seen him come. I wasn't especially surprised as I remembered (for once) that I was wearing a name tag, but it still seemed a bit bizarre as it didn't seem to me he had greeted any of the others in such a way. I thought perhaps he meant to remind the servant that there were other guests to attend to. Of course I had met Mr. Bush before, in 1962, on the occasion of his father's losing a contest for governor. His father's aides had mistaken me for one of Mr. Bush's companions from school and had hoped to obtain my assistance in convincing Mr. Bush to move away from the beer keg and to repair to some place out of public view. But I don't believe Mr. Bush learned my name at that time or that he was likely to have had much memory of the incident. Nothing that comes out of Mr. Bush's mouth really surprises anyone in Texas. SignatureLars Eighner -finger for geek code- eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/ If your eyes hurt after you drink coffee, you have to take the spoon out of the cup. --Norm Crosby >When I was received at the Governor's Mansion in 1996 (or was it >'95?) Mrs. Bush attempted to make some remarks about my work as she [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >the servants knew me but the Bushes were oblivious is something I am >very proud of. I don't understand. I understand that you would be proud to have your writing known by the help, but why proud that the Bushes *didn't* know your work? I would think that you would be neither proud nor embarrassed that they didn't. Your stuff is not exactly mainstream, Bush is not known to be a reader, there were a hundred other writers in attendance, and there should be no reasonable expectation that the Governor should be briefed on 100 different authors. It seems more of an affectation on your part to be proud that Bush didn't recognize your work. How many state Governors *would* know your work? If Aldo Alvarez doesn't know of your writing, you'd be expected to have an opinion on that. Why, though, expect Bush to just because he was the Governor? On a usage note.....servants? That usage seems rather 1890s. Help, maybe, staff more likely. These weren't footmen, were they? In our last episode, <3pvj00pb8hoion8or61qc3t1m5s1gjmt7a@4ax.com>, the lovely and talented Tony Cooper broadcast on alt.usage.english: >>When I was received at the Governor's Mansion in 1996 (or was it >>'95?) Mrs. Bush attempted to make some remarks about my work as she [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>the servants knew me but the Bushes were oblivious is something I am >>very proud of. > I don't understand. I understand that you would be proud to have your > writing known by the help, but why proud that the Bushes *didn't* know > your work? I would think that you would be neither proud nor > embarrassed that they didn't. But what if Bush *had* read my work and failed to be enlightened? Indeed, I appeal to a candid world: Don't blame me! He didn't read my book! > Your stuff is not exactly mainstream, Bush is not known to be a > reader, there were a hundred other writers in attendance, and there > should be no reasonable expectation that the Governor should be > briefed on 100 different authors. > It seems more of an affectation on your part to be proud that Bush > didn't recognize your work. How many state Governors *would* know > your work? Well, none I expect. > If Aldo Alvarez doesn't know of your writing, you'd be expected to > have an opinion on that. Why, though, expect Bush to just because he > was the Governor? I didn't. > On a usage note.....servants? That usage seems rather 1890s. Help, > maybe, staff more likely. These weren't footmen, were they? Well, they were serving. "Help" does not seem quite dignified to me. "Staff" would imply -- or at least would include -- those with positions having something to do with policy. There is much about the organization of the Governor's Mansion which is not entirely clear. That is nothing new. One of the charges in the impeachment of "Pa" (James Edward) Ferguson was that a chicken from the state coop had been served at a private dinner. ("Pa" was convicted. "Ma" (Merriam Amanda) then stood for governor and was elected the first woman governor of the state. Apparently "Ma" was derived of her initials, and "Pa" wasn't "Pa" until "Ma" ran.) I suppose I attended a state function and so it was the mansion staff, rather than Mr. Bush's who served me. As for footmen, there were young gentlemen whose only employment seemed to be assisting ladies in and out of cars, but they were not in livery. SignatureLars Eighner -finger for geek code- eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/ "Never judge a book by its movie." --J. W. Eagan >> On a usage note.....servants? That usage seems rather 1890s. Help, >> maybe, staff more likely. These weren't footmen, were they? > >Well, they were serving. "Help" does not seem quite dignified to me. >"Staff" would imply -- or at least would include -- those with positions >having something to do with policy. I don't think that "servants" carries more dignity than "help". (Pronounced "hep" in Texas) The household staff is rarely concerned with governmental policy. Since it was Texas, I should have included "hands" as an option. posted and e-mailed. [ snip, much] > Of course I had met Mr. Bush before, in 1962, on the occasion of > his father's losing a contest for governor. His father's aides [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > view. But I don't believe Mr. Bush learned my name at that time > or that he was likely to have had much memory of the incident. ... but his one, pure, extreme ability that I have read about, is that he remembers faces and names. I believe he didn't make president on *no* talent ... The published anecdote that I recall -- As a young candidate for his college fraternity, he wowed 'em, when as part of the hazing/ initiation games, he successfully named all 47 (?) of his co-candidates. SignatureRich Ulrich, wpilib@pitt.edu http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html "Taxes are the price we pay for civilization." > At a meeting in Mexico this past week, George Bush told Scott Reid ... > that he had a "pretty face." ... Is this a common designation for males > in Texas? You said they were in Mexico. In Texas pretty faces are no longer common. SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
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