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Duke - 18 Jan 2004 15:47 GMT

Hi Memebers,

Please tell me what is the difference between these words: Job and
work, also need,require and want.

Thanks

Duke.

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Jim Ward - 18 Jan 2004 16:04 GMT

> Please tell me what is the difference between these words: Job and
> work, also need,require and want.

According to Mortimer Adler in "Ten Philosophical Mistakes", a need
is a natural desire and a want is an acquired desire. There are no
wrong needs, but there are wrong wants.

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Arcadian Rises - 18 Jan 2004 20:33 GMT

>From: Jim Ward tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com

>According to Mortimer Adler in "Ten Philosophical Mistakes", a need
>is a natural desire and a want is an acquired desire. There are no
>wrong needs, but there are wrong wants.

I beg to disagree with MA, for many reasons. One of them, purely semantic: one
may need something (like good manners) although s/he has no desire to aquire
it. Maybe this is not a good example, but my point is that "need" =/= "desire".

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Adrian Bailey - 18 Jan 2004 23:01 GMT

> Hi Memebers,
>
> Please tell me what is the difference between these words: Job and
> work,

job - countable
work - uncountable

A job (1) (ie. a position in a company) is work (ie. employment).
"She's looking for a job."~"She's looking for work."
"jobless"~"out of work"
"on-the-job training"~"training in the workplace"

A job (2) (ie. a task) is a piece of work.
"Are there any jobs I can help you with?"~"Is there any work I can help you
with?"
"odd jobs"~"bits of work"

Adrian

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Steve Hayes - 19 Jan 2004 05:38 GMT

>Hi Memebers,
>
>Please tell me what is the difference between these words: Job and
>work, also need,require and want.

A person who is looking for a job is not necessarily looking for work. They
are looking for a post or position with a salary attached.

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Skitt - 19 Jan 2004 19:40 GMT

>> Hi Memebers,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> A person who is looking for a job is not necessarily looking for
> work. They are looking for a post or position with a salary attached.

Yeah, I usually don't look for a job, especially if it involves work -- I
only look for money. There's some of that money that I need, and there's
some that is required for obtaining one thing or another, but I want a lot
more money than that.

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Harry - 20 Jan 2004 08:05 GMT

> Please tell me what is the difference between these words: Job and
> work, also need,require and want.
> Thanks
> Duke.

Job - a task, chore, a scheduled item.
(Grave digger, carpenter, hooker.)

Work - energy burned to to a job.
(Lifting, shovelling, fighting.)

Need - necessary for the completion of sthng.
(Tools, access, knowledge.)

Require - must have, (but not necessarily needed)
(Payment, appology, good grammar.)

Want - desire to have.
(Fame, money, sex.)

Thanks - expression of gratitude.
("Thanks for the memory.")

Duke - (slang) fist, knuckles.
("Put up your dukes.")

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