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TOY - 20 Jan 2004 19:38 GMT
Which one should I write in English?

2003 has been a great year for us.

or

Year 2003 has been a great year for us

or

Year 2003 has been great for us
Jack Gavin - 20 Jan 2004 19:51 GMT
> Which one should I write in English?
>
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> Year 2003 has been great for us

All of these work for me, though the ones above mentioning "Year" sound a
bit formal (which might be appropriate, say, discussing a company's fiscal
year's results).

When the word "year" is needed to avoid any possible ambiguity in informal
speech, I would usually go with "*The* year 2003 has been..."

However, if I was discussing several years, in turn, I'd probably drop
"The" after the first one.  "Year 2004 looks hopeful."  Go figure.

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John O'Flaherty - 20 Jan 2004 21:03 GMT
>> Which one should I write in English?
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>However, if I was discussing several years, in turn, I'd probably drop
>"The" after the first one.  "Year 2004 looks hopeful."  Go figure.

To me, 'year' without 'the' would be reserved for a special series.
Like, 'year four of the tax plan'.
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Maria Conlon - 20 Jan 2004 21:58 GMT
>>> Which one should I write in English?
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> To me, 'year' without 'the' would be reserved for a special series.
> Like, 'year four of the tax plan'.

And, lest we forget to mention it: If the writer decides to lead with
"2003," it should be written out as words and not as numerals. "Two
thousand three has been a great year...."

Having to write out the number might be, in itself, a good enough reason
to start off with "Year" or "The year." IMO.

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Adrian Bailey - 21 Jan 2004 02:38 GMT
> >>> Which one should I write in English?
> >>>
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> "2003," it should be written out as words and not as numerals. "Two
> thousand three has been a great year...."

Nonsense. "2003 has been a great year for us" is fine. The sentences
starting with "Year 2003" aren't.

btw, if the sentence is being written today, the tense will have to change:
"2003 was a great year for us."

Adrian
Maria Conlon - 21 Jan 2004 05:24 GMT
> Maria Conlon wrote in message
>>
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> Nonsense. "2003 has been a great year for us" is fine. The sentences
> starting with "Year 2003" aren't.

Nonsense to you, perhaps, but writing out numbers that begin a sentence
is a rule I grew up with in the U.S. I don't think the rule has been
changed here. (Is that not a rule in other countries? Anyone?)

> btw, if the sentence is being written today, the tense will have to
> change: "2003 was a great year for us."

True in most circumstances. (Dialogue and quotations come to mind, but I
doubt that Toy's sentences are either.)

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Dr Robin Bignall - 21 Jan 2004 15:27 GMT
>> Maria Conlon wrote in message
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>is a rule I grew up with in the U.S. I don't think the rule has been
>changed here. (Is that not a rule in other countries? Anyone?)

Yes it is, Maria. I was taught not to start sentences with figures in the
1950s in England, but to write around the problem in exactly the way you
have described. "The year 2003 was a special one because..."
I don't think that "Two thousand and three was special because..." works
for me, because my immediate reaction is "two thousand and three what?",
although the 'was' rather than a 'were' gives a clue if one is reading
slowly.

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Adrian Bailey - 22 Jan 2004 04:57 GMT
> >> Maria Conlon wrote in message
> >>>
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> 1950s in England, but to write around the problem in exactly the way you
> have described. "The year 2003 was a special one because..."

I agree that it's better from a stylistic point of view to write a number in
words if it occurs at the start of a sentence but years are a special case:
they're number-nouns rather than number-adjectives and in the normal course
of events no-one writes them in words. I also think it's wise to use the
same word order in writing that one would use in speech, so to have to find
a way of getting the year away from the beginning of the sentence just so
you can write it in numerals is daft.

> I don't think that "Two thousand and three was special because..." works
> for me, because my immediate reaction is "two thousand and three what?",
> although the 'was' rather than a 'were' gives a clue if one is reading
> slowly.

Partly because I'm used to seeing number-adjectives written as words when
they start a sentence, if I saw a sentence like the one Maria suggests, I'd
be thrown. After "Two thousand" I'd expect to find a word like "people" or
"miles", not "three" or "four"!

Another "rule" consigned to the dustbin of linguistic history, I hope.

Adrian
 
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