I'm not sure that the family and followers of the late Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr., would like this: Howard Dean's "concession" speech after the
Iowa caucuses (held, coincidentally, on Martin Luther King Day) is now
being called "I Have a Scream." (Dr. King's most famous speech is called
"I Have a Dream.")
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A bit of background:
Howard Dean is one of seven (formerly nine) candidates for the
Democratic nomination in this year's presidential election. He finished
third in the Iowa race, as opposed to the expected first. His speech
following the caucus results is being characterized by some as a
demonstration of "loose cannon" behavior. (I personally think this is an
exaggeration -- and I don't even like Dean. Yes, he was yelling, but
only to pump up his people.) A video of the speech has been shown *very*
frequently on MSNBC and other cable and broadcast stations.
http://tinyurl.com/25slx (Des Moines Register)
or
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4021146/ (MSNBC)
>I'm not sure that the family and followers of the late Dr. Martin Luther
>King, Jr., would like this: Howard Dean's "concession" speech after the
>Iowa caucuses (held, coincidentally, on Martin Luther King Day) is now
>being called "I Have a Scream." (Dr. King's most famous speech is called
>"I Have a Dream.")
Some New York Times newsmen have conjectured he ended his chances for
the Presidency with that speech. No matter, all the Democrats running
are good. Any one of them would, and probably will, make a far better
Prez than Dubya it is unnecessary to add, especially since Bush
doesn't even deserve the title.

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Martin Ambuhl - 23 Jan 2004 08:09 GMT
>>I'm not sure that the family and followers of the late Dr. Martin Luther
>>King, Jr., would like this: Howard Dean's "concession" speech after the
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> Prez than Dubya it is unnecessary to add, especially since Bush
> doesn't even deserve the title.
After reading the accounts in the New York Times, Daily News, and Post, and
seeing comments from the television newsreaders calling themselves
"journalists" and from the so-called pundits, I had expected that Dean had
done something egregious. Not only were they all tolling the death knell,
but had recruited teams of psychologists and people claiming to be
political scientists, all of whom looked deep into the psyche of a
threatened, wounded animal.
Then I saw the speech. It was nothing exceptional. Not only was his
behavior not strange, but I have seen GWB himself do very similar things.
This looks to me like wishful thinking from people who told us from the
beginning that Dean had no chance. It seems that it is not only the New
York Post, our outlet for Australian Fascism, but all the establishment
press that is trying to create facts.

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R H Draney - 23 Jan 2004 13:56 GMT
Charles Riggs filted:
>No matter, all the Democrats running
>are good. Any one of them would, and probably will, make a far better
>Prez than Dubya it is unnecessary to add, especially since Bush
>doesn't even deserve the title.
Some of us, unfortunately, are aware of what happens when you replace King Log
with King Stork...I'm not looking forward to any of the possible outcomes of
this election....r
Jonathan Miller - 24 Jan 2004 03:50 GMT
> Charles Riggs filted:
> >
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> with King Stork...I'm not looking forward to any of the possible outcomes of
> this election....r
I have to admit I'm questioning the wisdom of direct popular elections.
Jon Miller
John Varela - 23 Jan 2004 19:56 GMT
> Some New York Times newsmen have conjectured he ended his chances for
> the Presidency with that speech.
Let's hope so. I've taken a personal dislike to him based solely on that SEG
he always wears.

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Robert Lieblich - 24 Jan 2004 03:20 GMT
> > Some New York Times newsmen have conjectured he ended his chances for
> > the Presidency with that speech.
>
> Let's hope so. I've taken a personal dislike to him based solely on that SEG
> he always wears.
And if he's nominated, we'll have a grin opposing a smirk. (If you
saw much of the SOTU, you should know what I mean.)
I'd say the best grinner among the recent presidents was Eisenhower,
though Truman and FDR had their moments.

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And then there was Coolidge ...
Bob Cunningham - 24 Jan 2004 13:03 GMT
[ . . . ]
> I'd say the best grinner among the recent presidents was Eisenhower,
> though Truman and FDR had their moments.
See http://www.notmilk.com/forum/790.html . What candidate
does it bring to mind?
Robert Lieblich - 24 Jan 2004 15:29 GMT
> [ . . . ]
>
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> See http://www.notmilk.com/forum/790.html . What candidate
> does it bring to mind?
It brings <www.shrubadub.com/george_w_bush/ madmag.html> to mind.

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For extra credit: Why do they call him "shrub"?
Maria Conlon - 23 Jan 2004 21:20 GMT
> Some New York Times newsmen have conjectured he ended his chances for
> the Presidency with that speech. No matter, all the Democrats running
> are good. Any one of them would, and probably will, make a far better
> Prez than Dubya it is unnecessary to add, especially since Bush
> doesn't even deserve the title.
Now, now. Saying things like that to me could make me think ill of you.
Conservatism is the Way. To the Left lie all things bad.
:-)

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R H Draney - 23 Jan 2004 21:54 GMT
Maria Conlon filted:
>Now, now. Saying things like that to me could make me think ill of you.
>Conservatism is the Way. To the Left lie all things bad.
>
>:-)
Is that our left, or their left?...
:-9
....r
Jonathan Miller - 24 Jan 2004 03:51 GMT
> Maria Conlon filted:
> >
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>
> Is that our left, or their left?...
I'm concerned both about the sinister and the merely maladroit.
Jon Miller
Robert Lieblich - 24 Jan 2004 03:24 GMT
> > Some New York Times newsmen have conjectured he ended his chances for
> > the Presidency with that speech. No matter, all the Democrats running
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Now, now. Saying things like that to me could make me think ill of you.
> Conservatism is the Way. To the Left lie all things bad.
[smiley snipped; tsk, Tootsie]
Wasn't their a time when the Republicans called the Democrats the
party of war and Democrats accused Republicans of an unwillingness
to spend? Aren't conservatives opposed to foreign adventurism,
deficit spending, and interference in citizens' private lives?
Which candidate will be the true conservative in 2004?
The foregoing looks almost like an inquiry into English usage. My
apologies.

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John Varela - 24 Jan 2004 16:35 GMT
> Wasn't their a time when the Republicans called the Democrats the
> party of war and Democrats accused Republicans of an unwillingness
> to spend? Aren't conservatives opposed to foreign adventurism,
> deficit spending, and interference in citizens' private lives?
> Which candidate will be the true conservative in 2004?
I recall a letter to the editor of the Boston Herald, back in 1960 when JFK
was running for President and the Herald was still a broadsheet, calling some
candidate "a black Protestant Republican". The writer had an Irish surname,
of course.

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Mickwick - 24 Jan 2004 20:55 GMT
In alt.usage.english, Charles Riggs wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:58:26 -0500, "Maria Conlon"
>>I'm not sure that the family and followers of the late Dr. Martin Luther
>>King, Jr., would like this: Howard Dean's "concession" speech after the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Prez than Dubya it is unnecessary to add, especially since Bush
>doesn't even deserve the title.
I heard Dean's Shout on the radio today. Shades of Neil Kinnock's
Sheffield speech on the eve of the 1992 election.

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