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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2004Where in England?
Here's a little puzzle ... in what city in England did this takeaway converstaion take place? "Cheese and tom in a bap." "There you go, loov." "Mug of Oxo and a chip buttie, ta." Hint 1: The book I read this mentions that the local slang for crackling is "scratchings". Hint 2: The river which runs through the middle of the city is popular in crosswords as "North Sea feeder". Bonus points for identifying the food and river, of course. Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in news:bv0d95$4ur$3 @news1.radix.net: > Here's a little puzzle ... in what city in England did > this takeaway converstaion take place? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bonus points for identifying the food and river, of course. A "chip buttie" is a sandwich of french fries, usually on white bread, with some sort of lubricant, most frequently butter, gravy, or mayonnaise. Quite restorative after a long night in the pubs. "Cheese and tom in a bap" is cheese and tomato on a soft roll. My guess for the city is Newcastle, and the river is the Tyne. Never been there, but I love the "broon".  SignatureMike Nitabach > My guess for the city is Newcastle, and the river is the Tyne. Never > been there, but I love the "broon". Close-by; I should've said "three-letter" river! Jim Ward spake thus: > > My guess for the city is Newcastle, and the river is the Tyne. Never > > been there, but I love the "broon". > > Close-by; I should've said "three-letter" river! I wasn't sure if I should reply, being English, but here goes: the Tees (OK, there are four letters, but only three different ones). SignatureDavid ===== david56 spake thus: > Jim Ward spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I wasn't sure if I should reply, being English, but here goes: the > Tees (OK, there are four letters, but only three different ones). Or if you don't like that, the Esk flows through Whitby to the North Sea. However, Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine ruined Abbey). SignatureDavid ===== > Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine > ruined Abbey). Do all English cities have ruined abbeys? SignatureMike Nitabach >> Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine >> ruined Abbey). > > Do all English cities have ruined abbeys? No, some of them have been repaired. .m >> Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine >> ruined Abbey). > >Do all English cities have ruined abbeys? Either a ruined abbey, or a medieval cathedral, or an ancient university, or an old half-timbered market-place, or a castle, or a set of ancient folk customs generally thought to be fertility rituals. It's The Law. Oh, or a large piece of abstract modern sculpture in the city centre. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove number to reply >> Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine >> ruined Abbey). > > Do all English cities have ruined abbeys? No, but many have ruined Abbys -- John Dean Oxford > Or if you don't like that, the Esk flows through Whitby to the North > Sea. However, Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine ruined > Abbey). Whitby was what I was looking for! I apologize for the bad wording of the question. I believe that Abbey inspired a scene in Stoker's Dracula where a dog leaped from a ship, bounds into churchyard, and turns into a vampire. <snip> > Whitby was what I was looking for! I apologize for the bad wording of > the question. I believe that Abbey inspired a scene in Stoker's Dracula > where a dog leaped from a ship, bounds into churchyard, and turns into a > vampire. Nuh-uh. That's not what happens in _Dracula_. Similar, but not exactly. Do yourself a grand favour and read the book. Forget any film adaptations you've had to endure, and enjoy the original story. Go on. You won't regret it. SignaturejohnF "No tribe, however primitive in its social arrangements, lacks a distinct and distinguishable language of great complexity and subtlety." -- _The English Language_, Robert Burchfield >david56 spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Sea. However, Whitby isn't a city (although it has a fine ruined >Abbey). The Lea (or Lee) flows through Herts. I think it goes right down to the Thames. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England > > My guess for the city is Newcastle, and the river is the Tyne. Never > > been there, but I love the "broon". > > Close-by; I should've said "three-letter" river! > Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in news:bv0d95$4ur$3 > @news1.radix.net: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > My guess for the city is Newcastle, and the river is the Tyne. Never > been there, but I love the "broon".\ I think its York A chip buttie is a chip sarnie A cheese and tom is a cheese and tomotoe sarnie and the river you're looking for is the River Ouse (I THINK!) JACKIE >Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in news:bv0d95$4ur$3 >@news1.radix.net: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >My guess for the city is Newcastle, and the river is the Tyne. Never >been there, but I love the "broon". If it had been Newcastle the luv would have been a hinny. It's not very location-specific, either. It could be Manchester if it weren't for the Irwell flowing (well, viscously seeping) the wrong way. -- Ross Howard > Here's a little puzzle ... in what city in England did > this takeaway converstaion take place? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hint 1: The book I read this mentions that the local slang > for crackling is "scratchings". Far be it from me to quibble, but this conversation could've taken place pretty much anywhere in the north of England. The only reason for not answering "Macclesfield", for example, is that the Bollin flows west. Adrian Adrian Bailey spake thus: > > Here's a little puzzle ... in what city in England did > > this takeaway converstaion take place? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > pretty much anywhere in the north of England. The only reason for not > answering "Macclesfield", for example, is that the Bollin flows west. Well, yes, I was working on that basis as well. We're looking for a Northern city with a three-letter river which flows into the North Sea. SignatureDavid ===== > Adrian Bailey spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Northern city with a three-letter river which flows into the North > Sea. Well, he didn't say "flowed into", aksherly. He said something about crosswords and "North Sea feeder" although I'm too lazy to go back and check exactly. Hasta to be Sheffield, innit? Although some may quibble that the Don does not flow quite through the city centre ... that's the Sheaf. Philip Eden >> Adrian Bailey spake thus: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > quibble that the Don does not flow quite through the city centre ... > that's the Sheaf. You wouldn't rule out Doncaster? Though, as Adrian pointed out, only the North Sea Connection prevents us allocating the conversation to almost anywhere in the North -- John Dean Oxford > >> Adrian Bailey spake thus: > >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > anywhere in the North > -- Yes I did, John, cos he said "city". But as it seems the place he was looking for was Whitby .... Philip Eden >Adrian Bailey spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Northern city with a three-letter river which flows into the North >Sea. And is associated with food. All the rest fits Durham, but the Wear has four letters. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk > >Adrian Bailey spake thus: > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > All the rest fits Durham, but the Wear has four letters. When I lived in Durham, stotties seemed to be preferred to baps. Adrian >"Steve Hayes" <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> And is associated with food. >> >> All the rest fits Durham, but the Wear has four letters. > >When I lived in Durham, stotties seemed to be preferred to baps. Aye, well, I didn't go in for them much. I liked byeakin butties, though. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk > Here's a little puzzle ... in what city in England did > this takeaway converstaion take place? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Hint 2: The river which runs through the middle of the city > is popular in crosswords as "North Sea feeder". Hmmm... It could *almost* fit Rotherham or Sheffield: > "Cheese and tom in a bap." > "There you go, loov." > "Mug of Oxo and a chip buttie, ta." Exactly as spoken in Rotherham, except that perhaps a "Mug'o Bovril" is probably a bit more popular. But then they also have many other strange "habits" (like soaking flase teeth, or "choppers" in Domestos - it's cheaper than sterodent!). > Hint 1: The book I read this mentions that the local slang > for crackling is "scratchings". Yep, when yer ask for them in't pub yer usually seh "pork scratchins" 'cos that's wot it ses on't packet. > Hint 2: The river which runs through the middle of the city > is popular in crosswords as "North Sea feeder". Oh! THAT's the bummer, but the river Don still has three letters, an still ends up in't North Sea, when it joins up with others, just before Goole, then past Grimsby 'an Cleethorpes, then Spurm Head. NR H [ ... ] > > Hint 2: The river which runs through the middle of the city > > is popular in crosswords as "North Sea feeder". > Oh! THAT's the bummer, but the river Don still has three letters, And flows quietly, I am informed: <http://www.vor.ru/Events/program16.html>. > an still > ends up in't North Sea, when it joins up with others, just before Goole, > then past Grimsby 'an A most creative apostrophe. Well done. > Cleethorpes, then Spurm Head. What's this about sperm heads? SignatureBob Lieblich Snowed in >What's this about sperm heads? The topic is Northern England, not Wales. SignatureJohn W Hall <wweexxsseessssaa@telus.net> Cochrane, Alberta, Canada. "Helping People Prosper in the Information Age" |
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