>Hello:
>
>Wonder if any of you knows the connection between Traherne and orient
>wheat?
This quote might be relevant:
http://www.jnani.org/natmyst/n_traherne.html
When it comes to Nature, Traherne presents us with few
descriptive passages, prefering more sweeping statements such
as 'The world is a mirror of infinite beauty, yet no man sees
it.' (p.198). Yet here and there are more detailed accounts of
Nature, such as in this extract from the Third Century which
also encapsulates many of Traherne's common themes:
The corn was orient and immortal wheat, which never
should be reaped, nor was ever sown. I thought it had stood
from everlasting to everlasting. The dust and stones of the
street were as precious as gold. The gates were at first the
end of the world, the green trees when I saw them first
through one of the gates transported and ravished me; their
sweetness and unusual beauty made my heart to leap, and
almost mad with ecstasy, they were such strange and
wonderful things. The men! O what venerable and reverend
creatures did the aged seem! Immortal cherubims! And the
young men glittering and sparkling angels and maids strange
seraphic pieces of life and beauty! Boys and girls tumbling
in the streets, and playing, were moving jewels. I knew not
that they were born or should die. But all things abided
eternally as they were in their proper places. Eternity was
manifest in the light of the day, and something infinite
behind everything appeared: which talked with my expectation
and moved my desire. The city seemed to stand in Eden, or to
be built in Heaven. The streets were mine, the temple was
mine, the people were mine, their clothes and gold and
silver was mine, as much their sparkling eyes, fair skins,
and ruddy faces. The skies were mine, and so were the sun
and moon and stars, and all the world was mine, and I the
only specatator and enjoyer of it. I knew no churlish
proprieties, nor bounds nor divisions; but all proprieties
and divisions were mine: all treasures and the possessors of
them. So that with much ado I was corrupted; and made to
learn the dirty devices of this world. Which I now unlearn,
and become as it were a little child again, that I may enter
into the Kingdom of God. (p. 226-227)
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>Thomas Traherne had his orient wheat
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Thanks.
>Marius Hancu

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Marius Hancu - 30 Jun 2008 13:23 GMT
On Jun 30, 8:16 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:
> The corn was orient and immortal wheat, which never
> should be reaped, nor was ever sown.
Thanks, this must be it.
Now, which one is "orient" here?
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1 archaic : ORIENTAL 1
2 a : LUSTROUS, SPARKLING <orient gems> b archaic : GLOWING, RADIANT
<with orient colors waving -- John Milton>
3 archaic : RISING <the orient moon -- P.B.Shelley>
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Seems to be the 2nd, or even the 3rd.
Marius Hancu
CDB - 30 Jun 2008 14:28 GMT
> On Jun 30, 8:16 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)"
> <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
>> The corn was orient and immortal wheat, which never
>> should be reaped, nor was ever sown.
> Thanks, this must be it.
> Now, which one is "orient" here?
> 1 archaic : ORIENTAL 1
> 2 a : LUSTROUS, SPARKLING <orient gems> b archaic : GLOWING, RADIANT
> <with orient colors waving -- John Milton>
> 3 archaic : RISING <the orient moon -- P.B.Shelley>
> Seems to be the 2nd, or even the 3rd.
Since this is a poem, I would say both are meant. The URL below
produces a difficult but apparently non-poetic use of the phrase from
1931 that makes me think the first definition is also legitimate.
Wheat comes from the Middle East (the original meaning of "the
Orient"); I don't know if Traherne knew it, but Heaney probably did.
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:ETqzy5V46icJ:www.footnote.com/document/83302
56/+%22orient+wheat%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=26
or http://tinyurl.com/626qe6