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The UnInmate - 18 Jul 2008 20:45 GMT
Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
changes: Why are you here?

I am here:

1) To indulge a shared interest. IME the world at large is hostile to
questions of proper language use, while the people here appear to care about
it.

2) To get leads for research on various bits of little-known information,
which is predominantly on language use but can be on anything under the sun.
(Never would have thought to read up on "Canadian whisky" if I hadn't come
here.)

3) To get some peripheral social time. A newsgroup is no substitute for a
social life, but it does have its uses as a social milieu.

4) To be entertained. Chuck's story about his wife's provenance and odyssey
in search of the truth is nothing if not entertaining.

How about you?
Mike Lyle - 18 Jul 2008 21:21 GMT
> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
> composition of newsgroups changes: Why are you here?
[...]

Foreign Legion rules: you don't ask.

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Reinhold [Rey] Aman - 19 Jul 2008 07:02 GMT
> > Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup
> > a thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
> > composition of newsgroups changes: Why are you here?
> [...]

> Foreign Legion rules: you don't ask.

Hey, just like in prison!

~~~ Reinhold [Rey] Aman ~~~
Fred Springer - 19 Jul 2008 11:40 GMT
>>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup
>>> a thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Hey, just like in prison!
>  

As with the Foreign Legion, I joined AUE to forget.

Forget what?

Can't remember.
J. J. Lodder - 19 Jul 2008 12:19 GMT
> >>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup
> >>> a thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Can't remember.

You must be the Little Prince's drunkard,

Jan
Chuck Riggs - 19 Jul 2008 16:58 GMT
>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
>> composition of newsgroups changes: Why are you here?
>[...]
>
>Foreign Legion rules: you don't ask.

Naval Intelligence rules: give a minimal answer to the question asked.
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Sara Lorimer - 20 Jul 2008 01:13 GMT
> > Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
> > thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
> > composition of newsgroups changes: Why are you here?
> [...]
>
> Foreign Legion rules: you don't ask.

And just as with the Foreign Legion, I've changed my name during my
spell here. Kept my nationality, though. That's my story.

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Chuck Riggs - 20 Jul 2008 14:16 GMT
>> > Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>> > thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>And just as with the Foreign Legion, I've changed my name during my
>spell here. Kept my nationality, though. That's my story.

Mine is that I changed the first and added one to the second.
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Wood Avens - 18 Jul 2008 21:22 GMT
>Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
>times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>How about you?

I think you mean Frank.

Some of us are also here to sharpen our wits.  Or to slow down the
inexorable dulling, anyway.

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Frank ess - 18 Jul 2008 21:50 GMT
>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup
>> a thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Some of us are also here to sharpen our wits.  Or to slow down the
> inexorable dulling, anyway.

Enrichment and humility.

Double doses, daily.

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The UnInmate - 18 Jul 2008 22:47 GMT
> I think you mean Frank.

So I did. Sorry, Frank. :-(
Richard Maurer - 19 Jul 2008 08:36 GMT
   Some of us are also here to sharpen our wits.
   Or to slow down the inexorable dulling, anyway.

We usually use the baker's spoil when it mattes.

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LFS - 18 Jul 2008 21:57 GMT
> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
> times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> 4) To be entertained. Chuck's

Frank's, I think.

story about his wife's provenance and odyssey
> in search of the truth is nothing if not entertaining.
>
> How about you?

I was lured here by an erudite and charming friend who kept telling me
how much I would enjoy the wordplay (what happened to all the pun
threads?) I have stayed because aue is entertaining and often
thought-provoking. I've learned a great deal about all sorts of things
that I might never have otherwise discovered. I have met some great
people here who have become good friends. Posting here has probably
improved my writing as it makes me consider my choice of words and
punctuation more carefully.

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Mike Lyle - 18 Jul 2008 22:34 GMT
[...]

> I was lured here by an erudite and charming friend who kept telling me
> how much I would enjoy the wordplay (what happened to all the pun
> threads?) [...]

Darned if I know. May be stranded somewhere.

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Philip Eden - 18 Jul 2008 23:46 GMT
> [...]
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Darned if I know. May be stranded somewhere.

I think I'm just beginning to cotton on ...

pe
HVS - 19 Jul 2008 08:56 GMT
On 18 Jul 2008, Mike Lyle wrote

> [...]
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Darned if I know. May be stranded somewhere.

Life's a beach, innit.

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J. J. Lodder - 19 Jul 2008 12:19 GMT
> On 18 Jul 2008, Mike Lyle wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Life's a beach, innit.

You aren't a whale, are you?

Jan
HVS - 19 Jul 2008 12:31 GMT
On 19 Jul 2008, J. J. Lodder wrote

>> On 18 Jul 2008, Mike Lyle wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> You aren't a whale, are you?

No, but I do like modern opera, intellectuals, and the seaside.

I sing Glass when I meet someone like Einstein on the beach.

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musika - 19 Jul 2008 12:52 GMT
> On 19 Jul 2008, J. J. Lodder wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I sing Glass when I meet someone like Einstein on the beach.

Do you sing Adams when you meet someone like Nixon in China?

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HVS - 19 Jul 2008 13:42 GMT
On 19 Jul 2008, musika wrote

>> On 19 Jul 2008, J. J. Lodder wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Do you sing Adams when you meet someone like Nixon in China?

Of course -- but "I sing Adams" doesn't float nearly as well as "I
sing Glass" for this thread, doncha' think?

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Robin - 18 Jul 2008 22:51 GMT
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>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> good friends. Posting here has probably improved my writing as it makes me
> consider my choice of words and punctuation more carefully.

What you said.  It also helps fill in the time between the dog going to bed
and me doing likewise.
Roland Hutchinson - 18 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
>> I was lured here by an erudite and charming friend who kept telling me
>> how much I would enjoy the wordplay (what happened to all the pun
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> What you said.  It also helps fill in the time between the dog going to
> bed and me doing likewise.

You have a dog who goes to bed before you do?  

Luxury!

We used to dream of having a dog who would go to bed at all.

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Roland Hutchinson - 18 Jul 2008 23:03 GMT
>>> I was lured here by an erudite and charming friend who kept telling me
>>> how much I would enjoy the wordplay (what happened to all the pun
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> We used to dream of having a dog who would go to bed at all.

PS came for the sheep; stayed for the Yorkshiremen.

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LFS - 18 Jul 2008 23:04 GMT
[Nothing, it appears - when I click on "Reply" none of Robin's post
shows up, so I've cut and pasted]

> What you said.  It also helps fill in the time between the dog going
to bed and me doing likewise.

Why can't you go to bed until the dog has gone to bed?

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Robin - 19 Jul 2008 23:25 GMT
> [Nothing, it appears - when I click on "Reply" none of Robin's post shows
> up, so I've cut and pasted]
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Why can't you go to bed until the dog has gone to bed?

Ah.  Because of my various medical problems I can't go to bed much before
one or one-thirty.  I have to wait until my last meal has passed through,
about nine hours.  It takes two of us to get the dog stowed for the night,
round about nine, and Jeanne goes to bed then because she's up at five, as
is the dog.  Getting up that early is something she's always done, as a
consequence of trying to miss the rush hour in London and get to a cafe near
to wherever her office was, so that she could have a peaceful breakfast
before work.  Having the dog upstairs with us would guarantee that neither
of us had any sleep, for he's up and about if either of us moves.  He has
boundless energy, and now he's an adult (in dog years) he seems to only need
a dog-nap for a few minutes before he's up and ready for anything.  If he
wasn't so adorable he'd be a pain in the arse.

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Richard Bollard - 22 Jul 2008 05:53 GMT
>> [Nothing, it appears - when I click on "Reply" none of Robin's post shows
>> up, so I've cut and pasted]
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>a dog-nap for a few minutes before he's up and ready for anything.  If he
>wasn't so adorable he'd be a pain in the arse.

As one gay said of another.

(I watched a repeat of the Big Gay Al episode of South Park last night
so the concatenation of gays and dogs came ready to mind.)
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Wood Avens - 20 Jul 2008 09:20 GMT
>I was lured here by an erudite and charming friend who kept telling me
>how much I would enjoy the wordplay

Oh, yes: the older I gert the more I'm left cold by broadcast comedy,
especially stand-up comedy, and if it weren't for aue I'd be wondering
if I'd been crept up on and humorectomised unwittingly .  As it is, I
can splutter helplesly over one of Brother Lyle's masterpieces, or
over a good Govende, and feel delightfully reassured.

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Mike Lyle - 20 Jul 2008 18:34 GMT
>> I was lured here by an erudite and charming friend who kept telling
>> me how much I would enjoy the wordplay
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> can splutter helplesly over one of Brother Lyle's masterpieces, or
> over a good Govende, and feel delightfully reassured.

Gee ... aw, shucks!

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Sara Lorimer - 20 Jul 2008 22:16 GMT
> > As it is, I
> > can splutter helplesly over one of Brother Lyle's masterpieces, or
> > over a good Govende, and feel delightfully reassured.
>
> Gee ... aw, shucks!

An expression of humility. What's an ear of corn's future?

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Wood Avens - 20 Jul 2008 22:53 GMT
>> > As it is, I
>> > can splutter helplesly over one of Brother Lyle's masterpieces, or
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>An expression of humility. What's an ear of corn's future?

The staff of life.  What's a pole?

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R H Draney - 21 Jul 2008 07:19 GMT
Wood Avens filted:

>>> Gee ... aw, shucks!
>>
>>An expression of humility. What's an ear of corn's future?
>
>The staff of life.  What's a pole?

A misspelled sci-fi writer...what's a heechee?

....r

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Jitze - 21 Jul 2008 08:45 GMT
>Wood Avens filted:
>>
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>
>A misspelled sci-fi writer...what's a heechee?

The sound that Charlie Chan makes when he sneezes

What is a Lychee?

Jitze
R H Draney - 18 Jul 2008 22:01 GMT
The UnInmate filted:

>Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
>times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
>changes: Why are you here?

I heard there would be donuts....r

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Roland Hutchinson - 18 Jul 2008 23:04 GMT
> The UnInmate filted:
>>
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>
> I heard there would be donuts....r

There was cake.  I distinctly remember cake.

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J. J. Lodder - 19 Jul 2008 12:19 GMT
> > The UnInmate filted:
> >>
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>
> There was cake.  I distinctly remember cake.

Brioche, you mean?

Jan
Roland Hutchinson - 19 Jul 2008 14:59 GMT
>> > The UnInmate filted:
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Brioche, you mean?

No, proper English cake, which I have learned to eat with my fingers.

Qu'on mange ce qu'il y a à manger!

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CDB - 18 Jul 2008 22:44 GMT
The UnInmate asked and answered:

[the existential question]

> 4) To be entertained. Chuck's story about his wife's provenance and
> odyssey in search of the truth is nothing if not entertaining.

Frank's story, no?  I'm not sure I'd call it entertaining, harrowing
as the experience must have been, but it was a fascinating look at the
workings of another society.
The UnInmate - 18 Jul 2008 23:50 GMT
> The UnInmate asked and answered:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> the experience must have been, but it was a fascinating look at the
> workings of another society.

I apologize if I seem callous. Yes, the experience must have been terrible,
but as a story it's entertaining.
CDB - 19 Jul 2008 00:01 GMT
>> The UnInmate asked and answered:

>> [the existential question]

>>> 4) To be entertained. Chuck's story about his wife's provenance
>>> and odyssey in search of the truth is nothing if not entertaining.

>> Frank's story, no?  I'm not sure I'd call it entertaining,
>> harrowing as the experience must have been, but it was a
>> fascinating look at the workings of another society.

> I apologize if I seem callous. Yes, the experience must have been
> terrible, but as a story it's entertaining.

No criticism intended.  I was just musing about the word.
CDB - 19 Jul 2008 22:59 GMT
>>> The UnInmate asked and answered:

>>> [the existential question]

>>>> 4) [Frank's story] is nothing if not
>>>> entertaining.

>>>  I'm not sure I'd call it entertaining,
>>> harrowing as the experience must have been, but it was a
>>> fascinating look at the workings of another society.

>> I apologize if I seem callous. Yes, the experience must have been
>> terrible, but as a story it's entertaining.

> No criticism intended.  I was just musing about the word.

Where was I?  Oh, yes, musing.  I was discussing the world this
morning with my dog, Peripateticus, and we came to the conclusion that
musing is a lot like fishing.  You set your lines, hoping to hook a
nice fat calliope, or a thalia with some bounce in her, and sometimes
you get a bite.
tony cooper - 18 Jul 2008 23:43 GMT
>How about you?

I came.  I saw.  I was conquered.

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 19 Jul 2008 00:09 GMT
> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
> composition of newsgroups changes: Why are you here?

A new newsgroup had recently been created called "alt.usage.english",
and I heard about it (probably in sci.lang) and decided to check it
out.

As for why I'm still here, even with the changing group of faces over
the years, it's still one of the most interesting, intelligent, witty,
and enjoyable groups of people I've ever come across.

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Maria C. - 19 Jul 2008 02:53 GMT
>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the years, it's still one of the most interesting, intelligent, witty,
> and enjoyable groups of people I've ever come across.

I found AUE in a book listing all the (then) newsgroups. The subject of
English Usage caught my eye, and one look at the group was all it took.

One of the best things I've found in AUE is the humor. Some folks here
are extremely funny. And smart, quick, and entertaining. What could be
better?

Also, the group is a good and painless way to learn things. Now, if some
of us could just stay off the subject of politics, it'd be perfect.

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Richard Bollard - 22 Jul 2008 06:27 GMT
[...]

>Also, the group is a good and painless way to learn things. Now, if some
>of us could just stay off the subject of politics, it'd be perfect.

Oh there ya go again, bringing it up.

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Maria C. - 23 Jul 2008 19:21 GMT
> [...]
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Oh there ya go again, bringing it up.

Yes. What I meant by "some of us" was "I."

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 19 Jul 2008 02:54 GMT
>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>the years, it's still one of the most interesting, intelligent, witty,
>and enjoyable groups of people I've ever come across.

This thread is worth saving in toto.

(Thinks: must create a folder called toto.)

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The UnInmate - 19 Jul 2008 04:07 GMT
>>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>>> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> This thread is worth saving in toto.

Perhaps so we can post a link to it next time someone asks the same
question?

> (Thinks: must create a folder called toto.)

Drastic topic change: Is the Toto song _Rosanna_ about the lyricist's
ill-fated love affair with Rosanna Arquette?
Evan Kirshenbaum - 19 Jul 2008 07:51 GMT
> Drastic topic change: Is the Toto song _Rosanna_ about the
> lyricist's ill-fated love affair with Rosanna Arquette?

   Arquette briefly dated Toto member Steve Porcaro; the band's
   Grammy Award-winning single "Rosanna", the lead track on the album
   _Toto IV_, was named after her, but the song itself was not about
   her, according to writer David Paich. I

           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosanna_Arquette

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Robin - 20 Jul 2008 22:41 GMT
>> Drastic topic change: Is the Toto song _Rosanna_ about the
>> lyricist's ill-fated love affair with Rosanna Arquette?
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>
>            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosanna_Arquette

'Toto' (several people using the same pseudonym) wrote and played the music
for the movie "Dune".

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HVS - 19 Jul 2008 08:58 GMT
On 19 Jul 2008, Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote

> This thread is worth saving in toto.
>
> (Thinks: must create a folder called toto.)

If you don't want to lose it, though, try not to store it in Kansas.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 19 Jul 2008 10:51 GMT
>On 19 Jul 2008, Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>If you don't want to lose it, though, try not to store it in Kansas.

Thanks for the advice, Dorothy.

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HVS - 19 Jul 2008 12:13 GMT
On 19 Jul 2008, Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote

>> On 19 Jul 2008, Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Thanks for the advice, Dorothy.

I'll pass that on to her -- I don't know her personally, but I'm
fairly sure I've met some of her friends.

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Richard Bollard - 22 Jul 2008 06:28 GMT
>>On 19 Jul 2008, Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Thanks for the advice, Dorothy.

I suppose it was a Dot point.
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R H Draney - 19 Jul 2008 16:19 GMT
BrE filted:

>This thread is worth saving in toto.
>
>(Thinks: must create a folder called toto.)

Make sure you create "cognito", "communicado" and "extremis" while you're at
it....r

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Frank ess - 19 Jul 2008 20:25 GMT
> BrE filted:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Make sure you create "cognito", "communicado" and "extremis" while
> you're at it....r

This thread goes to the "memoriam" folder.

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J. J. Lodder - 19 Jul 2008 22:10 GMT
> BrE filted:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Make sure you create "cognito", "communicado" and "extremis" while you're at
> it....r

Don't forget 'cogito' or you may find you don't exist,

Jan
Roland Hutchinson - 19 Jul 2008 22:48 GMT
> BrE filted:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Make sure you create "cognito", "communicado" and "extremis" while you're
> at it....r

Alongside "loco parentis" "medias res" and "vino veritas".

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CDB - 19 Jul 2008 23:07 GMT
>> BrE filted:

>>> This thread is worth saving in toto.

>>> (Thinks: must create a folder called toto.)

>> Make sure you create "cognito", "communicado" and "extremis" while
>> you're at it....r

> Alongside "loco parentis" "medias res" and "vino veritas".

"Excelsis" for the really good stuff.  Actually, this is a lot like
shooting muse in a barrel.  Mmm, bullwinkles.  No, wait.
Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 03:42 GMT
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>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a
>> thousand times already, but that remains fresh because the
>> composition of newsgroups changes: Why are you here?

> As for why I'm still here, even with the changing group of faces over
> the years, it's still one of the most interesting, intelligent, witty,
> and enjoyable groups of people I've ever come across.

A test of your personal strength is,

"Can you leave this group for months at a time?"

A more stringent test of your personal strength is,

"Can you deal with Purl Gurl without using a killfile?"

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tony cooper - 19 Jul 2008 04:34 GMT
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>
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>
>"Can you deal with Purl Gurl without using a killfile?"

I suppose, when the reply is from Purl Gurl, that it's too much to
expect that the rest of us get equal billing.

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Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 08:45 GMT
>>>> Why are you here?

>>> As for why I'm still here, even with the changing group of faces over

>> A more stringent test of your personal strength is,

>> "Can you deal with Purl Gurl without using a killfile?"

> I suppose, when the reply is from Purl Gurl, that it's too much to
> expect that the rest of us get equal billing.

You need to develop a better stage act.

     All the world's a stage,
     And all the men and women merely players;
     They have their exits and their entrances;
     And one man in his time plays many parts....

     - Billy Shakespeare

If you, Tony, cannot razzle dazzle readers with your words,
lift your T-shirt then wildly jiggle your boobs; this is
always a winning act.

...unless you are Twiggy.

Worst actor of all time is Sylvester Stallone. Best actor
of all time is Peter O'Toole. Compare the two. Stallone
works at forcing his portrayed character to conform to him.
O'Toole becomes his portrayed character, truly becomes.

Not a well known film, O'Toole performs his best acting
as Henry Plantagenet (King Henry II) in "The Lion In Winter."
O'Toole truly becomes Plantagenet then draws in viewers through
emotional connection; O'Toole appeals to their hearts and
to their minds.

Tony, you are like Stallone, you work at forcing yourself
upon others, including upon your character role. Contrasting,
like O'Toole, I become my character role. Readers draw me
in, absorb me within. This disdain for me, this like for
me, both are a result of my being absorbed by others, either
with discomfort or comfort.

You are without a story, I am a lively story teller.

With your wanting equal billing, you must sell your act, must
sell your story, you must earn a place in the minds of your
audience and, as with marriage, for better or for worse.

You must become your portrayed character. This requires
giving yourself over and requires significant talent along
with strength to lose yourself, least for a time.

My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.

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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 19 Jul 2008 10:53 GMT
>>>>> Why are you here?
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>...unless you are Twiggy.

<snip comments about actors>

>My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.

Some of us would prefer Tony to stick around.

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Maria C. - 20 Jul 2008 03:12 GMT
> Purl Gurl wrote, in part, to Tony Cooper:
>
>> My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.
>>
> Some of us would prefer Tony to stick around.

Yes, very much so.

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Purl Gurl - 20 Jul 2008 04:35 GMT
>>> My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.

>> Some of us would prefer Tony to stick around.

> Yes, very much so.

Of course, there are those whose language skills prevent
recognition of an excellent humorous contextual play, such
as a discussion of "losing yourself" to assume a character
role with effectiveness; lose yourself -- get lost.

Seems my subtle double meaning is well over the pointy
heads of the select few.

There are also those who recognize my high brow humor
yet elect to feign ignorance to legitimize spreading
discontent and acrimony.

For those who cannot recognize subtle contextual humor,
I say, "You need to learn."

For those who feign ignorance for a discontent agenda,
I say in a traditional sense, "Get lost."

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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 20 Jul 2008 12:14 GMT
>>>> My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Seems my subtle double meaning is well over the pointy
>heads of the select few.

Double bluff, dear gurl.

I understood your meaning but decided to pretend not to.

>There are also those who recognize my high brow humor
>yet elect to feign ignorance to legitimize spreading
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>For those who feign ignorance for a discontent agenda,
>I say in a traditional sense, "Get lost."

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LFS - 20 Jul 2008 06:48 GMT
>> Purl Gurl wrote, in part, to Tony Cooper:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Yes, very much so.

You bet.

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Jonathan Morton - 20 Jul 2008 14:13 GMT
>>> Purl Gurl wrote, in part, to Tony Cooper:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You bet.

Laura, this is OT, but do you lecture to students doing the Graduate Diploma
in Law?

Regards

Jonathan
LFS - 20 Jul 2008 16:01 GMT
>>>> Purl Gurl wrote, in part, to Tony Cooper:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Laura, this is OT, but do you lecture to students doing the Graduate Diploma
> in Law?

Sadly, no. I'm sure they would be a great deal more rewarding than my
students, who are mostly only interested in numbers and quite incapable
of writing a single coherent sentence.

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Jonathan Morton - 20 Jul 2008 16:09 GMT
>> Laura, this is OT, but do you lecture to students doing the Graduate
>> Diploma in Law?
>
> Sadly, no. I'm sure they would be a great deal more rewarding than my
> students, who are mostly only interested in numbers and quite incapable of
> writing a single coherent sentence.

Oh, I don't know, I think you have had a lucky escape - the reason for my
question is that my son is doing the GDL course at Brookes starting in
September.

Regards

Jonathan
LFS - 20 Jul 2008 16:43 GMT
>>> Laura, this is OT, but do you lecture to students doing the Graduate
>>> Diploma in Law?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> question is that my son is doing the GDL course at Brookes starting in
> September.

It's a very highly regarded course so he's made a good choice.

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Robin - 20 Jul 2008 22:46 GMT
>>>>> Purl Gurl wrote, in part, to Tony Cooper:
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> students, who are mostly only interested in numbers and quite incapable of
> writing a single coherent sentence.

They'll all end up in government, then.

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Sara Lorimer - 20 Jul 2008 22:16 GMT
> >> Purl Gurl wrote, in part, to Tony Cooper:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You bet.

Ooh, do we get to pick one? Have a seat, Tony.

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R H Draney - 19 Jul 2008 16:21 GMT
Purl Gurl filted:

>Not a well known film, O'Toole performs his best acting
>as Henry Plantagenet (King Henry II) in "The Lion In Winter."
>O'Toole truly becomes Plantagenet then draws in viewers through
>emotional connection; O'Toole appeals to their hearts and
>to their minds.

You must not have seen him in "The Ruling Class", then....r

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Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 19:32 GMT
>> Not a well known film, O'Toole performs his best acting
>> as Henry Plantagenet (King Henry II) in "The Lion In Winter."
>> O'Toole truly becomes Plantagenet then draws in viewers through
>> emotional connection; O'Toole appeals to their hearts and
>> to their minds.

> You must not have seen him in "The Ruling Class", then.

I'm Jack!

Rather impressive how O'Toole can seamlessly slide back and
forth between characters. This must be hard on his mind.

Ruling Class, an excellent mockery of British arrogant aristocracy.

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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

Chuck Riggs - 19 Jul 2008 17:20 GMT
>>>>> Why are you here?
>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
>My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.

You are, indeed, a pearl, girl. How many hours of your day do you
devote to AUE, if I may be so bold? I'd like to improve my
contributions, sure, but with the many posts to read each day, I find
I have little time to respond, assuming I leave time for anything
else.
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Chuck Riggs
Near Dublin, Ireland

Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 19:26 GMT
(WMD snippage)

> How many hours of your day do you devote to AUE, if I may be so bold?

Not as much as you suspect. I am a very fast typist and
my words and thoughts leap off my fingers like lightning.

Assume you are talented carpenter. You can build and finish
a home, very quickly. This is a result of your talent. You
know what needs to be done and know how to do this, based
on years of experience. You work fast and efficiently while
avoiding the pitfalls of having to learn along the way.

I am not a carpenter. I am an English professor. Like you,
the carpenter, I work fast and efficiently, again, based on
many years of practical experience. I build and finish a
writings, very quickly.

Your carpenter work moves along smooth and effortlessly.
My writing work moves along smooth and effortlessly. This
is not a question of how many hours are spent here at AUE,
this is a question of how efficiently people use their time.

> I'd like to improve my  contributions, sure, but with the  many
> posts to read each day, I find I have little time to respond....

I read only a small percentage of articles, perhaps one out
of ten. I scan article "threads" for topics of interest to me,
this is scan rather than read. This saves time. You can create
more time for yourself by selective reading.

You are up standing on ceiling joists fitting and nailing roof
rafters into place. Give your attention to your rafters and
do not worry about what a landscaper is up to; this only distracts
you and uses up a lot of your time. Your goal is to build a habitat
of great worth, his goal is spreading bullshit.

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Purl Gurl
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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

Amethyst Deceiver - 20 Jul 2008 13:28 GMT
>My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.

I'm sure he'll take your suggestion for all it's worth.
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Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford
My accent may vary

tony cooper - 20 Jul 2008 14:39 GMT
>>My sincere suggestion for you then, Tony, is to get lost.
>
>I'm sure he'll take your suggestion for all it's worth.

I will give it the attention it deserves.

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 19 Jul 2008 07:48 GMT
> (snipped)
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> "Can you leave this group for months at a time?"

That's hard.  I've done it, involuntarily, but it's hard for me.

> A more stringent test of your personal strength is,
>
> "Can you deal with Purl Gurl without using a killfile?"

So far.

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Purl Gurl - 20 Jul 2008 02:37 GMT
(snipped)

>>>> Why are you here?

>>> As for why I'm still here, even with the changing group of faces
>>> over the years, it's still one of the most interesting,
>>> intelligent, witty, and enjoyable groups of people I've ever come
>>> across.

>> A test of your personal strength is,

>> "Can you leave this group for months at a time?"

> That's hard.  I've done it, involuntarily, but it's hard for me.

Hang around, like America and oil addiction, I will extract a
high price for your participation here. I will provide motivation
for you to join a twelve-step program to break your addiction.

I assisted Bobby the Barrister to break his addiction to this
discussion group, for which he is grateful. I can assist you.

"Hello. My name is Evan. I am a wordoholic."

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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 00:44 GMT
The UnInmate asks the 64,000 dollar question:

> Why are you here?

I am here to masturbate my bloated ego.

Bet ya a buck this is why most participants are here.

Have you noticed how often celebrities mess up this
"64,000 dollar question" reference. Sometimes I hear,
"6 million dollar" which seems a crossover with the
Bionic Man. I have heard "64 million dollar" question
which, I suppose, is inflation adjusted. Other times,
"one-million dollar question" of unknown origin.

Reminds me of George Bush and our 64 cent dollar.

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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

CDB - 19 Jul 2008 03:45 GMT
> The UnInmate asks the 64,000 dollar question:

>> Why are you here?

[truth to AUE]

> Have you noticed how often celebrities mess up this
> "64,000 dollar question" reference. Sometimes I hear,
> "6 million dollar" which seems a crossover with the
> Bionic Man. I have heard "64 million dollar" question
> which, I suppose, is inflation adjusted. Other times,
> "one-million dollar question" of unknown origin.

If you're old enough, you can remember the sixty-four dollar question.
Expectations were lower in the '40s.
Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 04:46 GMT
>> The UnInmate asks the 64,000 dollar question:

> If you're old enough, you can remember the sixty-four dollar question.
> Expectations were lower in the '40s.

I am not old enough to remember the Forties
nor the Fifties but some of the Sixties.

However, I am old enough to remember the
ultimate question of a lifetime,

"You are pregnant?"

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Purl Gurl
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So many are stumped by what slips right off the top of my mind
like a man's bad fitting hairpiece.

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 19 Jul 2008 10:54 GMT
>>> The UnInmate asks the 64,000 dollar question:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>"You are pregnant?"

No one has ever asked me that.

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Purl Gurl - 19 Jul 2008 18:26 GMT
>>>> The UnInmate asks the 64,000 dollar question:

>>> If you're old enough, you can remember

>>I am not old enough to remember the

>> However, I am old enough to remember the
>> ultimate question of a lifetime,

>> "You are pregnant?"

> No one has ever asked me that.

Ah, you remain a timeless vestal virgin, remain
a person of dignity, respect and earned adulation.

You enjoy a blessing of not suffering this knowledge
of the beast within, this growing life-form which
consumes your body and mind only to spring forth
from your loins to wreak havoc upon your sense of
love and devotion to family taught to you by beasts
of before, posing as your loving father, grandfather
and uncles, your honored male beast ancestors, all
of whom, you come to learn, are beasts nurtured within
womb, nursed at the breast, then set free with one
burning desire in life; to procreate, to ensure certain
survival of the species, regardless of risk to the mental
well being and risk to the very lives to those of us of
our fair feminine gender, we mothers of these man beasts,
mothers whose only reprieve and respite in life is
birthing a girl child.

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Skitt - 19 Jul 2008 18:43 GMT
>> The UnInmate asks the 64,000 dollar question:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> If you're old enough, you can remember the sixty-four dollar question.
> Expectations were lower in the '40s.

That's what I thought, and now I have verified that there was a radio show
in the 1940s for which $64 was the top prize.  I didn't arrive in the USA
until early 1949, so I don't think I ever heard that show, but I must have
heard about it.
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No NESsie, but oh, so close ...

Richard Maurer - 19 Jul 2008 09:20 GMT
[re Why are we here?]
If I had to invent a reason, I'd say:

  We tinker, therefore we yammer.

--                       ---------------------------------------------
Richard Maurer              To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California       of a homonym of a synonym for also.
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Jitze - 19 Jul 2008 09:37 GMT
>How about you?

Well, somebody told me I could find the answer to a riddle
by asking in this forum. The answer was pugry, but I've
forgotten the question. Something to do with the coefficient
of expansion of brass balls maybe, or was it the use of a full
nine yards in a full monte? Apparently Churchill originated
the expression - or maybe it was GBS. Whatever.

Jitze
Maria C. - 19 Jul 2008 21:54 GMT
Jitze're reply to the question "Why are you here" (in AUE):

> Well, somebody told me I could find the answer to a riddle
> by asking in this forum. The answer was pugry, but I've
> forgotten the question. Something to do with the coefficient
> of expansion of brass balls maybe, or was it the use of a full
> nine yards in a full monte? Apparently Churchill originated
> the expression - or maybe it was GBS. Whatever.

A classic, Jitze. All right if I put it on my "Miscellany" page?

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Jitze - 20 Jul 2008 08:23 GMT
>Jitze're reply to the question "Why are you here" (in AUE):
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>A classic, Jitze. All right if I put it on my "Miscellany" page?

I'd be hono(u)red and delighted to be so immortalised...

Jitze
Chuck Riggs - 19 Jul 2008 17:04 GMT
>Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
>times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
>changes: Why are you here?
>
>I am here:

In order to minimize life's inevitable pains to the hole between now
and the time of my death by enjoying the wit and wisdom of fellow AUE
members.
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Chuck Riggs
Near Dublin, Ireland

TsuiDF - 30 Jul 2008 21:13 GMT
> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
> times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
> changes: Why are you here?

A) If I knew the answer to that, I'd found a religion.

or, alternatively,

B) I tripped over this group about 12 years ago when I left a very
high-pressure job and suddenly had time to surf about, which coincided
with beginning to do a lot of editing and writing.

and then, much as Laura has described,

C) I've met friends around the world and wouldn't want to leave, even
if my time here is sporadic and some people think I'm impersonating a
pastry chef (for which I will be eternally grateful, I might add).

cheers,
Stephanie
tony cooper - 30 Jul 2008 22:17 GMT
>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
>> times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>if my time here is sporadic and some people think I'm impersonating a
>pastry chef

Typical female.  Never forgets a slight.

>(for which I will be eternally grateful, I might add).

Typical female with class.  Remembers the slight, but handles it
graciously.

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LFS - 30 Jul 2008 22:47 GMT
>> Let's have a question that must have been asked on this newsgroup a thousand
>> times already, but that remains fresh because the composition of newsgroups
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> if my time here is sporadic and some people think I'm impersonating a
> pastry chef (for which I will be eternally grateful, I might add).

I'm afraid I still expect you to be Chinese...

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TsuiDF - 31 Jul 2008 21:21 GMT
> > C) I've met friends around the world and wouldn't want to leave, even
> > if my time here is sporadic and some people think I'm impersonating a
> > pastry chef (for which I will be eternally grateful, I might add).
>
> I'm afraid I still expect you to be Chinese...

I'll keep making efforts in both directions, but I don't promise great
success.  Some amusement perhaps, but no great success.

And I *never* thought that being supposed to be a pastry chef (or
Chinese) was a slight, nosirreebob.  Or Tony.

all the best from Brussels,
Stephanie
 
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