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Arcadian Rises - 27 Jul 2008 00:43 GMT
I'm looking for a delicate term.

When you eat too much chocolate, then whip cream then ice cream you
feel...nauseous? Almost, but not quite.
Though you don't feel like vomiting, you still experience some
discomfort.

What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.
tinwhistler - 27 Jul 2008 00:51 GMT
> I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

I call it the BLOWN APART feeling, as in the epilogue to a poem I
titled THE BLACK WIDOW (having two stanzas but closely resembling a
limerick):

I once met a woman of wealth
Who claimed to eat mildew for health;
When no one believed what she told
She cooked up a potful of mold
And ate fungus among us by stealth.

This same little lady of means
Used mildew to season some beans;
When offered this potent legume,
Her husband was blown from the room
And torn up into fine smithereens.

(Witnesses at the scene compared him to Napoleon, blown apart.)

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angelgloww2000*@yahoo.com - 27 Jul 2008 01:37 GMT
> I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.
Glutted. Stuffed.
Purl Gurl - 27 Jul 2008 02:16 GMT
> I'm looking for a delicate term.

> When you eat too much chocolate, then whip cream then ice cream you
> feel...nauseous? Almost, but not quite.
> Though you don't feel like vomiting, you still experience some
> discomfort.

> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

choco-bends
fat, dumb and flatulent
ice cream cramps
pig aches
on the oink
hog belly
Baskin & Robbins syndrome
full to the puke line
junk food heaves
cack-in-the-box
pastry queasy

...and my favorite,

too stuffed to f.ck

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 27 Jul 2008 12:04 GMT
>...and my favorite,
>
>too stuffed to f.ck

Which would be the opposite of when you are too satisfyingly
exhausted to eat:

 too f.cked to stuff.

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Jeffrey Turner - 27 Jul 2008 03:00 GMT
> I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

Queasy?  Bloated?

--Jeff

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mm - 27 Jul 2008 08:29 GMT
>I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
>When you eat too much chocolate, then whip cream then ice cream you
>feel...nauseous? Almost, but not quite.

The word you want is nauseated.

>Though you don't feel like vomiting, you still experience some
>discomfort.

queasy, sick to the stomach.

Although none of the foods you list could do that to me.

>What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
>I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

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Derek Turner - 27 Jul 2008 09:51 GMT
> I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety? I'm
> not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

(BrE) full to busting
angelgloww2000*@yahoo.com - 27 Jul 2008 12:33 GMT
>>I'm looking for a delicate term.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> (BrE) full to busting

           THE GHOULISH BANQUET

They gathered 'round the dinner table, and
Each one began to stuff himself as planned.
They ate a lot, and didn't care a fig
That each of them was eating like a pig.
Their bloated stomachs made the guests feel good
That they had stuffed themselves with so much food
They didn't have to pay for, but could eat
As much as they could stand of tasty meat.
They ate all that there was, and satisfied
Themselves on dishes broiled and baked and fried.
They didn't care the food would go to waste
So long as each could satisfy his taste.
And so they gorged on what resembled ham
And ate as if they didn't give a damn
About their health, but wished instead to stuff
Themselves until they'd had more than enough.
Yet, even then, they stuffed themselves some more
Until their bellies felt a little sore.
Then, just as all of them were full to burst,
The cook brought out another garnished wurst.
The meat was fine, and all the guests agreed
That they should meet their host who thought to feed
Their gluttony with so much rare cuisine.
The host appeared and said, "My name's Ed Gein."
Jeffrey Turner - 27 Jul 2008 14:56 GMT
> Their bloated stomachs made the guests feel good
> That they had stuffed themselves with so much food

In whose dialect do those lines rhyme?  Is it a long oooh?

--Jeff

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tony cooper - 27 Jul 2008 15:41 GMT
>> Their bloated stomachs made the guests feel good
>> That they had stuffed themselves with so much food
>
>In whose dialect do those lines rhyme?  Is it a long oooh?

Native speakers of Russian often rhyme "good" with "food" in English
by pronouncing them "gud" and "fud".  
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angelgloww2000*@yahoo.com - 27 Jul 2008 17:04 GMT
>> Their bloated stomachs made the guests feel good
>> That they had stuffed themselves with so much food
>
> In whose dialect do those lines rhyme?  Is it a long oooh?
>
> --Jeff

Have you ever heard of sight rhyme? Slant rhyme? Assonance? (Hip-hop
uses a lot of assonance rather than strict rhyme.)

Then there's the issue of phonetic changes over time, as, probably, in
the famous final couplet of Shelley's "Ode to the West Wind":

                            ". . . O Wind,
If winter comes, can spring be far behind?"

I don't like strict rhymes or "perfect" rhymes. In addition, by
completing the rhyme on "good" with a longer sound "food," I stress the
important word "food," which is really what the poem is about (i.e.
eating too much food).

I like tension in my rhymes, just like I prefer syncopated lines (I'm
not too fond of end-stopped rhymes, but prefer enjambement, or run-on
rhymes/lines); in brief, I aim for an idiomatic poetic metrics: poetry
that doesn't sound like poetry. Ironically, I thought someone would
contest the final rhyme on Ed Gein's name (since it's intuitively
pronounced GINE, not GEEN); but Gein insisted on the latter pronunciation.
Dan McGrath - 29 Jul 2008 15:11 GMT
On Jul 27, 7:33 am, angelgloww20...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Their gluttony with so muchrarecuisine.

"Rare"?

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Mike Barnes - 27 Jul 2008 12:48 GMT
In alt.usage.english, Arcadian Rises wrote:
>I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
>I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

For the feeling that you get from too much sugar I'd say "feel sick".
For that different feeling that you get from too much food generally,
"feel bloated".

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Frank ess - 27 Jul 2008 20:23 GMT
> In alt.usage.english, Arcadian Rises wrote:
>> I'm looking for a delicate term.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> sick". For that different feeling that you get from too much food
> generally, "feel bloated".

"Full as a tick".

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LaReina del Perros - 28 Jul 2008 00:26 GMT
>I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
>I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will do it.

When you've eaten to the point of surfeit, you feel surfeited.

From m-w.com:

Main Entry: 1sur·feit  
Pronunciation: \'s?r-f?t\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English surfet, from Anglo-French, from surfaire to
overdo, from sur- + faire to do, from Latin facere — more at do
Date: 14th century
1 : an overabundant supply : excess
2 : an intemperate or immoderate indulgence in something (as food or
drink)
3 : disgust caused by excess

Main Entry: 2surfeit
Function: verb
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
: to feed, supply, or give to surfeit
intransitive verb
archaic : to indulge to satiety in a gratification (as indulgence of
the appetite or senses)
synonyms see satiate
— sur·feit·er noun
CDB - 28 Jul 2008 01:20 GMT
>> I'm looking for a delicate term.

>> When you eat too much chocolate, then whip cream then ice cream you
>> feel...nauseous? Almost, but not quite.
>> Though you don't feel like vomiting, you still experience some
>> discomfort.

>> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
>> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will
>> do it.

> When you've eaten to the point of surfeit, you feel surfeited.

> From m-w.com:

> Main Entry: 1sur·feit
> Pronunciation: \'s?r-f?t\
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> drink)
> 3 : disgust caused by excess

> Main Entry: 2surfeit
> Function: verb
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> synonyms see satiate
> - sur·feit·er noun

"Cloy" doesn't seem busy these days.  Too much whipped cream can leave
you feeling all cloyed up (in recognition of its connection to
"clogged").  Might have to reach farther for a noun.  I favour
"cloyth", though "cloyance" might give a good account of itself.  An
extreme cloyth might be a "cluggoth".  Sssh, children, Father was at
the Irish Coffee last night, and now he's down with a cluggoth: if you
love life, do not wake him.

It would give an alliterative line with "Clarence", too, if anybody
wanted one.
CDB - 28 Jul 2008 01:22 GMT
>> I'm looking for a delicate term.

>> When you eat too much chocolate, then whip cream then ice cream you
>> feel...nauseous? Almost, but not quite.
>> Though you don't feel like vomiting, you still experience some
>> discomfort.

>> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
>> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will
>> do it.

> When you've eaten to the point of surfeit, you feel surfeited.

> From m-w.com:

> Main Entry: 1sur·feit
> Pronunciation: \'s?r-f?t\
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> drink)
> 3 : disgust caused by excess

> Main Entry: 2surfeit
> Function: verb
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> synonyms see satiate
> - sur·feit·er noun

"Cloy" doesn't seem busy these days.  Too much whipped cream can leave
you feeling all cloyed up (in recognition of its connection to
"clogged").  Might have to reach farther for a noun.  I favour
"cloyth", though "cloyance" might give a good account of itself.  An
extreme cloyth might be a "cluggoth".  Sssh, children, Father was at
the Irish Coffee last night, and now he's down with a cluggoth: if you
love life, do not wake him.

It would give an alliterative line with "Clarence", too, if anybody
wanted one.
The UnInmate - 28 Jul 2008 02:29 GMT
>>> I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> It would give an alliterative line with "Clarence", too, if anybody
> wanted one.

I want one! I want one!
CDB - 28 Jul 2008 22:31 GMT
>>>> I'm looking for a delicate term.

[pigout]

>>>> What do you call that feeling or sensation of unpleasant satiety?
>>>> I'm not looking for an only word, so a phrase, even a poem, will
>>>> do it.

>>> When you've eaten to the point of surfeit, you feel surfeited.

[definitions]

>> "Cloy" doesn't seem busy these days.  [drolleries]

>> It would give an alliterative line with "Clarence", too, if anybody
>> wanted one.

> I want one! I want one!

What George Plantagenet thought he was playing at, messing with
malmsey at midnight, the mutt, we'll never know, for the Nevilles have
tabooed all talk of the cloyage in Clarence's Butt.
Chuck Riggs - 29 Jul 2008 14:08 GMT
>>>>> I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>malmsey at midnight, the mutt, we'll never know, for the Nevilles have
>tabooed all talk of the cloyage in Clarence's Butt.

I can't make heads or tails of the above.
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CDB - 29 Jul 2008 15:19 GMT
[surfeit city]

>>>>> When you've eaten to the point of surfeit, you feel surfeited.

>>>> "Cloy" doesn't seem busy these days. [drolleries]

>>>> It would give an alliterative line with "Clarence", too, if
>>>> anybody wanted one.

>>> I want one! I want one!

>> What George Plantagenet thought he was playing at, messing with
>> malmsey at midnight, the mutt, we'll never know, for the Nevilles
>> have tabooed all talk of the cloyage in Clarence's Butt.

> I can't make heads or tails of the above.

Alliterative lines, one with "Clarence", as requested (they also came
out as a double dactyl, without the introductory "higgledy-piggledy",
which I have never liked).  Now improved! or at least slightly
altered:

What George Plantagenet * thought he was playing at,
surfing the malmsey * at midnight, the mutt,
we'll never know, * for the Nevilles have tabooed all
talk of the Cloyance * of Clarence's Butt.

Wiki: "The Neville sisters were heiresses to their mother's
considerable estates, and their husbands vied with one another for
pride of place, with Richard eventually winning out. Clarence, who had
made the mistake of plotting against his brother Edward IV, was
imprisoned in the Tower of London and put on trial for treason.
Following his conviction, he was "privately executed" at the Tower on
18 February 1478, and the tradition grew up that he had been drowned
in a butt of Malmsey wine.[1] The tradition may have originated in a
joke, based on his reputation as a heavy drinker."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Plantagenet%2C_1st_Duke_of_Clarence
http://tinyurl.com/58qy6c
Chuck Riggs - 30 Jul 2008 10:14 GMT
>[surfeit city]
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Plantagenet%2C_1st_Duke_of_Clarence
>http://tinyurl.com/58qy6c

I understand more of it now, but it was an effort. Thanks for the
explanation.
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Arcadian Rises - 28 Jul 2008 02:56 GMT
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Arcadian Rises
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> synonyms see satiate
> — sur·feit·er noun

That's exactly the meaning I was looking for:

> 3 : disgust caused by excess

Rem acu tetigisti! which is Latin for "Bingo!".

I thank you very much LaReina and all the others for braintstorming.
Arcadian Rises - 28 Jul 2008 03:06 GMT
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Arcadian Rises
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> synonyms see satiate
> — sur·feit·er noun

Next question: what is the proper usage?

"I'm surfeited by too much chocolate"? I guess "too much" is kinda
redundant.   I cannot possibly think of any other usage. SOS!
Don Aitken - 28 Jul 2008 07:24 GMT
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:43:50 -0700 (PDT), Arcadian Rises
>>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>"I'm surfeited by too much chocolate"? I guess "too much" is kinda
>redundant.   I cannot possibly think of any other usage. SOS!

I think the only time I've seen the word used is in reference to the
death of King Henry I, who, to the great glee of the authors of "1066
and All That", died of a surfeit of lampreys.

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R H Draney - 28 Jul 2008 08:24 GMT
Don Aitken filted:

>>Next question: what is the proper usage?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>death of King Henry I, who, to the great glee of the authors of "1066
>and All That", died of a surfeit of lampreys.

You could go to surfeit city, 'cause it's two to one now....r

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Chuck Riggs - 28 Jul 2008 12:47 GMT
>Don Aitken filted:
>>
>>>Next question: what is the proper usage?

When writing dialog in a play staged for the 18th century, perhaps?

>>>"I'm surfeited by too much chocolate"? I guess "too much" is kinda
>>>redundant.   I cannot possibly think of any other usage. SOS!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>You could go to surfeit city, 'cause it's two to one now....r

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Steve Hayes - 29 Jul 2008 10:26 GMT
>I'm looking for a delicate term.
>
>When you eat too much chocolate, then whip cream then ice cream you
>feel...nauseous? Almost, but not quite.
>Though you don't feel like vomiting, you still experience some
>discomfort.

Naar.

I'm curious about the eating, whipping icing sequence.

First you eat.
Then you whip cream.
Then you ice cream... but don't you usually ice cakes, not cream?

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 30 Jul 2008 17:21 GMT
> I'm curious about the eating, whipping icing sequence.
>
> First you eat.
> Then you whip cream.
> Then you ice cream... but don't you usually ice cakes, not cream?

Interestingly, the name "ice cream" was early on objected to by usage
commentators precisely on the grounds that it should be "iced cream";
"icing" the (sweetened) cream was, in fact, how you made it.

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R H Draney - 30 Jul 2008 19:57 GMT
Evan Kirshenbaum filted:

>> I'm curious about the eating, whipping icing sequence.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>commentators precisely on the grounds that it should be "iced cream";
>"icing" the (sweetened) cream was, in fact, how you made it.

Here we go again:  roasted beef, hashed browns, iced tea and frenched fries....r

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 30 Jul 2008 22:33 GMT
> Evan Kirshenbaum filted:
>>
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> Here we go again: roasted beef, hashed browns, iced tea and frenched
> fries....r

iced water, shaved ice, and fried bread.

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LFS - 30 Jul 2008 22:45 GMT
>> Evan Kirshenbaum filted:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> iced water, shaved ice, and fried bread.

IRTA fried beard. Several times. Presumably because of the earlier shaved.

I can guess what shaved ice is but I've never come across it before.

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R H Draney - 30 Jul 2008 22:51 GMT
LFS filted:

>>> Here we go again: roasted beef, hashed browns, iced tea and frenched
>>> fries....r
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I can guess what shaved ice is but I've never come across it before.

Without the D, it's a Hawaiian delicacy...something like sno-cones....

Both Evan and I left out "creamed corn"....r

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Glenn Knickerbocker - 01 Aug 2008 00:22 GMT
> Both Evan and I left out "creamed corn"....r

The cans usually do say "creamed," don't they?  Without the "-ed," all
I think of is the Socket of Davis and tadpoles the size of Mercurys.

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 01 Aug 2008 00:49 GMT
>> Both Evan and I left out "creamed corn"....r
>
> The cans usually do say "creamed," don't they?  Without the "-ed," all
> I think of is the Socket of Davis and tadpoles the size of Mercurys.

I suspect that the cans largely say "creamed", but people have been
saying "cream" for a while.  Looking at the _NY Times_ I see it
advertised back to 1895:

   New-York State Cream Corn, fancy quality, sweet, tender, white,
   creamy corn, solid pack, three days only.  12c. the
   can. [4/14/1895]

although I don't see it outside of ads there before 1943.

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