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Discussion Groups / English Usage / September 2008What is a living prop?
Wikipedia's definition of model is "a person whose occupation is to function as a living prop." What is a living prop? "Uri": > Wikipedia's definition of model is "a person whose occupation is to > function as a living prop." That's rather demeaning. > What is a living prop? "Prop" is a term from the stage, movies, and TV. It normally refers to the objects that appear in a scene -- furniture, books, clothes, cars, telephones, guns -- anything that you see in the background or that the actors use or handle. The term is derived from "property", because the props are usually the property of the company producing the show. (In movies you will see a screen credit for person responsible for the props. Sometimes it says "props" or "prop master", but it also may read "property master".) The person who wrote that definition was saying that the model is serving the same purpose -- the model is just something to look at, and the fact that he or she is alive is incidental.  SignatureMark Brader | "Hitler made an elementary error when he chose not to Toronto | dress his young National Socialists in lime-green catsuits msb@vex.net | laced with twinkling fairy lights." --Anthony Lane My text in this article is in the public domain. >"Uri": >> Wikipedia's definition of model is "a person whose occupation is to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >serving the same purpose -- the model is just something to look at, >and the fact that he or she is alive is incidental. I don't see it that way. A prop is a support. A model is hired to be a living support on which clothes may be displayed to their advantage. SignaturePaul On 28 Sep 2008, Paul Wolff wrote >> "Uri": >>> Wikipedia's definition of model is "a person whose occupation [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > to be a living support on which clothes may be displayed to > their advantage. If the writer meant that, he or she should have used "living mannequin"; as the writer chose to use "prop" -- which does indeed have the common meaning of a piece of stage dressing -- I'm with Mark. It just goes to prove yet again that the Wikipedia model is a crap method for constructing agreed-upon definitions. SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed >On 28 Sep 2008, Paul Wolff wrote > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >have the common meaning of a piece of stage dressing -- I'm with >Mark. I'm with Mark, too. A prop is used on stage to create a setting for what is on featured display: the actors. The model is a setting for what is on featured display: the clothing. The model, though, contributes more than a stage prop. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > If the writer meant that, he or she should have used "living > mannequin" Note definition 2, from MW: >> If the writer meant that, he or she should have used "living >> mannequin" > > Note definition 2, from MW: What happened here? My copy-and-paste didn't stick. I'll try again, but if it doesn't work again, see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mannequin a l j :, f s s SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEW lamps for OLD for email. >> Note definition 2, from MW: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > s > s It looks like a few bits of it stuck that time, John. Try using a bit more glue. SignatureRegards John for mail: my initials plus a u e at tpg dot com dot au |
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