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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2009Dead before you know he's gone?
It was really strange, just now, hearing this strange voice on the TV, when Dick Clark was announced. I know it is traditional to have him there leading the fun on NYNY's Eve, but my channel had just done a listing of all those well-knowns who died in 2008, and I swear to God, Dick Clark's voice wasn't even faintly reminiscent of his real voice. He sounded dead. (I really had missed a lot of deaths throughout the year. Shocking, how many I recognized. And how famous "Bettie Page" was, whom I can't recall ever having seen in photo or film.) >It was really strange, just now, hearing this strange voice on the TV, >when Dick Clark was announced. I know it is traditional to have him [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >many I recognized. And how famous "Bettie Page" was, whom I can't recall >ever having seen in photo or film.) What surprises me more is seeing some once-famous person on TV and thinking "I thought he/she died years ago.".  SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > tony cooper wrote >>It was really strange, just now, hearing this strange voice on the TV, >>when Dick Clark was announced. I know it is traditional to have him [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >What surprises me more is seeing some once-famous person on TV and >thinking "I thought he/she died years ago.". Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever reiable live music show. Guest star was Martha Reeves and, yup, the Vandellas, still going strong. DC - HNY -- >> tony cooper wrote > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >reiable live music show. Guest star was Martha Reeves and, yup, the Vandellas, >still going strong. I agree that the show can be relied on for quality musical programming, but after watching the fantastic "Chocolat", which ended at the beginning of Jools Holland's concert, I was ready for bed. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs Near Dublin, Ireland > Chuck Riggs wrote >>>What surprises me more is seeing some once-famous person on TV and >>>thinking "I thought he/she died years ago.". [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >programming, but after watching the fantastic "Chocolat", which ended >at the beginning of Jools Holland's concert, I was ready for bed. Ah yes - we have that on DVD as Mrs C is a big Johnny Depp fan. Great film... DC -- >Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >reiable live music show. That would be "live" as in "prerecorded live".[1] I think it is performed "as if live" with no breaks or second takes. For those who have not seen the show, think "doughnut". The bands are set up around a central space. They are ready to go without any need for "scene-shifting". The audience and invited guests are seated, some at tables, between the bands. Jules Holland[2] wanders about in the central space going to speak to guests and introduce performers. The performers are in the studio throughout and are part of the audience when not performing. Jules Holland is widely recognised as having poor presentational skills. Some critics would say that "poor" is a generous assessment. I particularly enjoyed one moment a few years ago when he left a guest he had been interviewing and headed across the studio to find his next interviewee. This took the camera operators by surprise and he was almost off camera for a brief time. He retraced his steps and found his next interviewee where he had been all the time, sitting next to his previous one. Musically, the most memorable moment for me was in the 2006 Annual Hootenanny (New Year's Eve show) when, unusually, a performer with his equipment had been put into the central space during the show, He started playing and stole the show partly because of his performance and partly because of the contrast between his music and that of the other performers. He was Seasick Steve: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasick_Steve [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hootenanny_(UK_TV_Show)> Pre-recording Some claim that the show deceives viewers into thinking that the show is broadcast live, but the BBC itself has admitted that the show is not broadcast live and is instead "an idealised New Year's Eve party with a line-up that would surely be impossible to deliver on December 31". [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Holland http://www.joolsholland.com/about.htm SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >> Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >> reiable live music show. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > retraced his steps and found his next interviewee where he had been all the > time, sitting next to his previous one. Jools is incoherent, but this is of little consequence in one of the foremost piano players of his generation. FWIW, I was saddened to hear Martha Reeves who has lost most of the power and expression from her voice IMO. SignatureDavid >>> Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >>> reiable live music show. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Jools is incoherent, but this is of little consequence in one of the >foremost piano players of his generation. Indeed. > FWIW, I was saddened to hear >Martha Reeves who has lost most of the power and expression from her >voice IMO. I recorded the show and will watch it later today. Ditto Elton John's New Year party from the O2. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > the Omrud wrote >>Jules Holland is widely recognised as having poor presentational skills. >>Some critics would say that "poor" is a generous assessment. I particularly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >piano players of his generation. FWIW, I was saddened to hear Martha Reeves >who has lost most of the power and expression from her voice IMO. Yes, I thought that - one song to show she was still game would have been enough, rather than trotting her out for three. DC -- > Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote >>Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >>reiable live music show. > >That would be "live" as in "prerecorded live".[1] That would be 'live' as in musicians actually singing and playing their instruments in front of an audience, rather than the usual TV music format consisting of a collection of promotional videos or of pop stars miming over tapes of their songs. NYCTMI I believe the programme is pre-recorded - wasn't their some fuss last year about guests not pretending hard enough that it was New Year? Lenny Henry was a bit embarrassing, mind... DC -- >Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >reiable live music show. Guest star was Martha Reeves and, yup, the Vandellas, >still going strong. OldBloke and I were incredibly disappointed with her - she sounded like she couldn't quite remember the tunes for some of the songs she sang, which was a real shame. SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary > Amethyst Deceiver wrote >>Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >>reiable live music show. Guest star was Martha Reeves and, yup, the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >like she couldn't quite remember the tunes for some of the songs she >sang, which was a real shame. Mmm, indeed - 'going strong' in my earlier posting probably needs to be read as 'not dead yet'. DC -- [...] > OldBloke and I were incredibly disappointed with her - she sounded > like she couldn't quite remember the tunes for some of the songs she > sang, which was a real shame. That's the effect most modern jazz singers devote their lives to achieving. "...Nice!" SignatureMike. >>Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >>reiable live music show. Guest star was Martha Reeves and, yup, the Vandellas, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >like she couldn't quite remember the tunes for some of the songs she >sang, which was a real shame. I watch a recording of it after reading your comments, so I was expecting some disappointment. Sadly Martha no longer has the voice she once had, and she did seem to be struggling at times. I not at all sure that we even heard the Vandellas. They were singing away merrily, but so were the backing singers to the (camera) left of Jools Holland's orchestra. I suspect that we may have heard mainly the latter group. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>>Highlight of last night's midnight programming here was Jools Holland's ever >>>reiable live music show. Guest star was Martha Reeves and, yup, the Vandellas, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >the (camera) left of Jools Holland's orchestra. I suspect that we may have >heard mainly the latter group. Yes, OldBloke's other comment was that (as is so often the case on the Hootenanny) the sound balance was wrong. SignatureLinz Wet Yorks via Cambridge, York, London and Watford My accent may vary |
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