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Crystal and diamond it glittered

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Marius Hancu - 01 Jan 2009 15:18 GMT
Hello:

"Crystal and diamond it glittered far and wide"

I'm getting the image, however I'm trying to see if
"Crystal and diamond"
are nouns, in effect a plural:
"It glittered/threw out/projected crystals and diamonds"
or are they adverbs
"It glittered like crystal?"

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Crystal and diamond it glittered far and wide, the forest stood up
very black and white, the quarter of the heavens where the moon was
not showed deeply dark, embroidered with stars.

The Magic Mountain, p. 273
by Thomas Mann, Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter
-----

Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 01 Jan 2009 15:37 GMT
>Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>or are they adverbs
>"It glittered like crystal?"

The latter, I think.
>------
>Crystal and diamond it glittered far and wide, the forest stood up
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>by Thomas Mann, Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter
>-----

   Crystal-like and diamond-like it glittered far and wide,...
or
   As if crystal and diamond encrusted it glittered far and wide,...

>Thanks.
>Marius Hancu

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Marius Hancu - 01 Jan 2009 20:21 GMT
On Jan 1, 10:37 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:

> >"Crystal and diamond it glittered far and wide"
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> The latter, I think.

> >Crystal and diamond it glittered far and wide, the forest stood up
> >very black and white, the quarter of the heavens where the moon was
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> or
>     As if crystal and diamond encrusted it glittered far and wide,...

Thank you all.
Marius Hancu
Pat Durkin - 01 Jan 2009 16:08 GMT
> Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> or are they adverbs
> "It glittered like crystal?"

Are we talking about the ground, here?  The snow-covered ground?  The
snow?

That would be "it", and, as Peter pointed out, the use of nouns like
crystal (Crystal Palace) and diamond (diamond ring) as modifiers of the
same noun is not rare at all.
(OT I call some snow "Lux flakes", because its flakes glitter and have
the diamond facets of that old detergent.  Just lovely to sweep and
shovel, but frustrating to try to make snowballs with.)

Another way of combining, or chaining, modifiers is to add the suffix to
the last of a pair or a series:  crystal and diamondlike.

> ------
> Crystal and diamond it glittered far and wide, the forest stood up
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu
Marius Hancu - 01 Jan 2009 20:18 GMT
> Are we talking about the ground, here?  The snow-covered ground?  The
> snow?

Sorry, I cut it too short.

It's "the world":
---------
In the evening, when the almost full moon appeared, the world lay in
enchanted splendour, marvellous. Crystal and diamond it glittered far
and wide, the forest stood up very black and white, the quarter of the
heavens where the moon was not showed deeply dark, embroidered with
stars.

The Magic Mountain, p. 273
by Thomas Mann, Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter
-----

Marius Hancu

Marius Hancu
John O'Flaherty - 01 Jan 2009 19:39 GMT
>Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>by Thomas Mann, Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter
>-----

Another way to look at it is to regard the words as having been
forced into the role of descriptive adjectives. Cf. "The sky shone
carelessly blue upon the blood running red in the streets". I might
consider them nouns and objects of an omitted preposition "like" if
they appeared in plural.

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