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Mark Brader - 05 Jan 2009 06:52 GMT
Not long ago I heard someone say "Don't get on my case."  To me
this is not an expression I hear every day, but it is familiar
enough.  It means, more or less, "I've heard enough about that;
don't keep on nagging or berating me."

But... why "case"?

Please don't say what you guess or assume [or I'll have to get on
your case about it :-)].  I can invent three or four plausible
etymologies myself.  But is there a documented *true* etymology
for the phrase?
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Donna Richoux - 05 Jan 2009 11:08 GMT
> Not long ago I heard someone say "Don't get on my case."  To me
> this is not an expression I hear every day, but it is familiar
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> etymologies myself.  But is there a documented *true* etymology
> for the phrase?

I think you know that you don't usually get that for slang; the best you
can hope for are some historical citations.

Cassell's has an entry:

  get off one's case, to. phr. [1950s+] [orig. US Black] to stop
  harassing, to stop annoying.

Under "case" they have two dozen entries, and the one they associate
with the above use is:

       case. n.8. [1920s+] (US) a situation, usually in
    phrases e.g. have a bad case of the brokes, to be
    poor; get off my case, leave me alone.

It looks to me like they swept a couple of miscellaneous uses of "case"
into one entry.

RHHDAS has an entry:

    get off (one's) case, to quit harassing or annoying
    (one); (hence) on (one's) case, harassing or being
    hostile to (one).    
   
They offer no etymological theory. A long list of citations starts with
1969, emphasizing underground and urban use.

For amusement, I list here the other things that "case" has meant in
earlier slang, according to Cassell's:

1. the vagina
2.a house (Ital. casa)
a shop, a warehouse
a brothel, esp. London
a lavatory
3. a counterfeit coin
4. a ne'er-do-well
5. an infatuation
an adulterous affair
a pair of lovers
6. an eccentric person
7. a crime or criminal charge

And that doesn't count the adjectives, verbs, and combinations.

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Mike Lyle - 05 Jan 2009 19:18 GMT
[...]
> For amusement, I list here the other things that "case" has meant in
> earlier slang, according to Cassell's:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> And that doesn't count the adjectives, verbs, and combinations.

No 6 remains current in BrE, and I think it enjoys certain extended
meanings, such as "a person posing some difficulty" or "an amusing
person".

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Mark Brader - 06 Jan 2009 10:45 GMT
Mark Brader:
>> But is there a documented *true* etymology for the phrase?

Donna Richoux:
> I think you know that you don't usually get that for slang...

Looks like we have one this time.  But, yes, that's why my question
was "is there one?"
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tony cooper - 05 Jan 2009 13:27 GMT
>Not long ago I heard someone say "Don't get on my case."  To me
>this is not an expression I hear every day, but it is familiar
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>etymologies myself.  But is there a documented *true* etymology
>for the phrase?

So you are looking for a case in point?

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Irwell - 05 Jan 2009 15:33 GMT
>>Not long ago I heard someone say "Don't get on my case."  To me
>>this is not an expression I hear every day, but it is familiar
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> So you are looking for a case in point?

Case the joint?
Paul Brians - 05 Jan 2009 19:10 GMT
> Not long ago I heard someone say "Don't get on my case."  To me
> this is not an expression I hear every day, but it is familiar
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> etymologies myself.  But is there a documented *true* etymology
> for the phrase?

The OED proposes a plausible derivation having to do with the
investigation of criminal cases:

  on the case

   a. Actively engaged in an investigation, originally spec. a
criminal investigation (cf. sense 6); in active pursuit.

1937 E. POUND Fifth Decad Cantos xlvi. 33 Seventeen years on the case;
here Gents, is/are the confession. ‘Can we take this into court? Will
any jury convict on this evidence?’ 1971 O. ACOSTA Let. Oct. in H. S.
Thompson Fear & Loathing in Amer. (2000) 445 They've put one of the
heavy D.A.'s on the case and he started in on me right away. 1999 J.
BOYLE Hero of Underworld 70 Farm it out, my arse. I want you on the
case immediately.
   b. colloq. (orig. U.S.). Aware of, alert to, or actively dealing
with a particular situation or task; (more broadly) capable, prepared,
and alert; well-informed. Also: on hand, esp. in readiness.

1971 D. GOINES Dopefiend 153 Don't let your fingers get too
sticky..'cause I'll be right there on the case. 1980 H. GOULD Fort
Apache, Bronx (film script) 41 Rest?.. sh.t, I don't need no rest, I'm
on the case. 1987 T. WOLFE Bonfire of Vanities (1988) 4 Tell 'im,
bro... Y'on the case... Yo, Gober! 1992 J. PETERS & J. NICHOL Tornado
Down (1993) xii. 94, I was already on the case, and as he finished
speaking the wings finally did roll out level. 1998 E. BRIMSON
Hooligan xv. 41 We all have to be on the case so don't get too sh.t-
faced. Anyone that's pissed ain't coming, right?
  colloq. (orig. U.S.).

   a. to get off a person's case: to leave a person in peace; esp. to
stop criticizing or harassing a person. Usually in imper., as get off
my case!

1971 E. E. LANDY Underground Dict. 88 Get off my case, expression
meaning leave me alone. 1977 C. MCFADDEN Serial (1978) vii. 20/2 ‘It's
Michael's,’ she said. ‘Anita's new old man. And get off my case.’ 1990
R. DOYLE Snapper (1993) 174 Was she in pain, he asked her. The fuckin'
eejit; she'd give him pain if he didn't get off her case. 1997 A. WOOD
EastEnders (BBC TV Script) Episode 575. 21 Get off my case will you? I
know what I'm doing.
   b. to be on a person's case and variants: to criticize or reprove
a person, esp. repeatedly; to harass or annoy someone.

1971 H. ROBERTS Third Ear 5/2 Don't get on my case. 1982 W. L. HEAT
MOON Blue Highways VII. xvi. 298 Some people have gotten on my case
because of a rumor that I posed for it. 1988 Star (Tarrytown, N.Y.)
12A 8/2 You've got the boat, the bike and the expensive tools, but if
she so much as looks at that fur jacket in the window, you're on her
case. 1993 Globe & Mail (Toronto) 1 Feb. C 3/2 Her mother..is
seriously on her case, her boyfriend ditches her, a blind date fails
to show. 1999 Odds On Feb. 3/2 The tabloids are on her case full time.
Mark Brader - 06 Jan 2009 10:56 GMT
Paul Brians:
> The OED proposes a plausible derivation having to do with the
> investigation of criminal cases...

Ah!  Indeed, that was one of the plausible guesses I made.

But, hold on.  You posted the following (I'll elide only the cites):

>    on the case
>
>     a. Actively engaged in an investigation, originally spec. a
> criminal investigation (cf. sense 6); in active pursuit. ...

>     b. colloq. (orig. U.S.). Aware of, alert to, or actively dealing
> with a particular situation or task; (more broadly) capable, prepared,
> and alert; well-informed. Also: on hand, esp. in readiness. ...

>    colloq. (orig. U.S.).
>
>     a. to get off a person's case: to leave a person in peace; esp. to
> stop criticizing or harassing a person. Usually in imper., as get off
> my case! ...

>     b. to be on a person's case and variants: to criticize or reprove
> a person, esp. repeatedly; to harass or annoy someone. ...

There's nothing structural here to confirm that they're intending to
relate the two expressions "on the case" and "on/off a person's case"
to each other; in fact, the lettering sequence a-b-a-b suggests that
these are two independent entries.

I assume this is all part of a long entry for "case" in the OED Online,
but I don't have access to that (and the OED Supplement isn't recent
enough to have an item in the C's whose first cite is from 1971).
Could it be that these are two entries that just happen to be adjacent,
among a list of idiomatic phrases containing the word "case"?  Or is
there something that you didn't post (or that I missed) and which
positively relates them to each other?
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