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Marius Hancu - 07 Jan 2009 11:12 GMT
Hello:

Is this
"In the service of the cure"
an idiom, used about medical treatments?

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... Joachim was detained at thome in the service of the cure ...

Thomas Mann, The Magic Mountain, p. 390
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Donna Richoux - 07 Jan 2009 11:29 GMT
> Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Thomas Mann, The Magic Mountain, p. 390
> -------

My first thought is curé, French clergyman. I vaguely recall that you
ran into a similar problem in Madame Bovary. Does it make any sense
here?

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Marius Hancu - 07 Jan 2009 12:00 GMT
> > Is this
> > "In the service of the cure"
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> ran into a similar problem in Madame Bovary. Does it make any sense
> here?

Definitely not here. It occurs throughout the novel, and it's a about
respecting/taking ones cure/treatment:

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... there is an attempt to interfere with - for a higher good - the
patient's
words in the service of the cure.

Promises, Promises: Essays on Psychoanalysis and Literature‎
by Adam Phillips
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But perhaps she had failed in the service of the cure, perhaps hers
was one of those cases in which the air proved in the first instance
to be good not

The Magic Mountain: Der Zauberberg‎ - Page 297
by Thomas Mann, Helen Tracy Lowe-Porter
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... value of a careful attempt to extend interpretations even into
areas where
the gaining of insight is apparently very largely in the service of
the cure.

The International Journal of Psycho-analysis‎ - Page 449
by Ernest Jones, Sigmund Freud, International Psycho-Analytical
Association, Institute of Psycho-analysis (London, England), MetaPress
(Online service) - Psychoanalysis - 1956
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Wood Avens - 07 Jan 2009 12:09 GMT
>> > Is this
>> > "In the service of the cure"
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>(Online service) - Psychoanalysis - 1956
>--------

"In dedication to"; something a bit more committed than "in the
interests of".  It suggeststhat everything else is secondary to the
pursuit of what the cure requires.

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Marius Hancu - 07 Jan 2009 12:23 GMT
> >> > Is this
> >> > "In the service of the cure"
> >> > an idiom, used about medical treatments?

> "In dedication to"; something a bit more committed than "in the
> interests of".  It suggeststhat everything else is secondary to the
> pursuit of what the cure requires.

Looks good:-)

Thank you.
Marius Hancu
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 07 Jan 2009 12:48 GMT
>Hello:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Thomas Mann, The Magic Mountain, p. 390
>-------

The translator really does have a problem expressing ideas in idiomatic
English.

"In the service of the cure" is not an English idiom known to me.

"Service" seems to mean something like "application", and "cure" is medical
treament/therapy.

   Joachim was confined to his home (while) receiving medical treatment.

Or something like that.

It reminds me of the the double-entendre "She was at home under the doctor".

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Marius Hancu - 07 Jan 2009 12:59 GMT
On Jan 7, 7:48 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:

> >-------
> >... Joachim was detained at home in the service of the cure ...
>
> >Thomas Mann, The Magic Mountain, p. 390
> >-------

What the TB patients in this sanatorium really do is lay in the
special reclinable chairs in their loggias, and expose themselves for
hours to the presummed healthy effects of the mountain air.

All that required a certain commitment and will on their behalf, thus
I assume they were "in the service of the cure."

Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Marius Hancu - 07 Jan 2009 13:19 GMT
> What the TB patients in this sanatorium really do is lay in the

lie

> special reclinable chairs in their loggias, and expose themselves for
> hours to the presummed healthy effects of the mountain air.

presumed

> All that required a certain commitment and will on their behalf, thus
> I assume they were "in the service of the cure."

sorry.
Pat Durkin - 07 Jan 2009 23:42 GMT
> On Jan 7, 7:48 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> All that required a certain commitment and will on their behalf, thus
> I assume they were "in the service of the cure."

I think that is exactly the case.  The patient confines himself to the
house, to the bed, to whatever situation or process of treatments (hot
baths, steam baths, mud baths, teas and nostrums, drugs) the doctors
recommend.  This is all intended to be _his_ role in the cure.
Marius Hancu - 08 Jan 2009 12:11 GMT
> > What the TB patients in this sanatorium really do is lay in the
> > special reclinable chairs in their loggias, and expose themselves for
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> baths, steam baths, mud baths, teas and nostrums, drugs) the doctors
> recommend.  This is all intended to be _his_ role in the cure.

Thanks for the confirmation.
Marius Hancu
 
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