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anssir66@hotmail.com - 09 Jan 2009 14:54 GMT

Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or should
it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?

Thanks!
-Anssi

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Pat Durkin - 09 Jan 2009 15:16 GMT

> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or should
> it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?

Well, I would put the destination first, and then the activity.
"They went to the sea to dive." "They went to the seaside to dive."

I think the infinitive makes for a bit of thinking, though. Maybe "for
diving" would work better. But that is style, and writing, and thinking
about it. In actual speech, almost anything goes.

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Ian Jackson - 09 Jan 2009 16:14 GMT

>> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or should
>> it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?
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>diving" would work better. But that is style, and writing, and
>thinking about it. In actual speech, almost anything goes.

You can often make things clearer by adding "in order to" (or something
similar). "They went to the sea in order to dive" (or "In order to dive,
they went to the sea").

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Maria C. - 09 Jan 2009 16:51 GMT

>> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or
>> should it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?
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> "for diving" would work better. But that is style, and writing, and
> thinking about it. In actual speech, almost anything goes.

Does anyone go to the seaside to "dive"? I would think they go to swim.
That, or they go to a pool when they want to dive.

(I picture "the seaside" as having a shore -- where the water is too
shallow to dive into. You'd have to go out a ways to dive under the
water.)

However, OneLook Dictionary does mention the verb "dive" meaning to
"swim under water" and also to "plunge into water."

Basically, I'm unfamiliar with anssir66's usage of "dive" (and yours,
too, I guess).

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Leslie Danks - 09 Jan 2009 17:06 GMT

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> Does anyone go to the seaside to "dive"?

In BrE, yes, but it means scuba diving (usually) -- i.e. the "swim under
water" meaning you found below.

> I would think they go to swim.
> That, or they go to a pool when they want to dive.

> (I picture "the seaside" as having a shore -- where the water is too
> shallow to dive into. You'd have to go out a ways to dive under the
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> Basically, I'm unfamiliar with anssir66's usage of "dive" (and yours,
> too, I guess).

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tony cooper - 09 Jan 2009 19:37 GMT

>>> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or
>>> should it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?
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>shallow to dive into. You'd have to go out a ways to dive under the
>water.)

There are very few places where one can dive from the shore. Shore
diving", where you wade in, is possible in places like the Cayman
Islands (eg: Eden Roc), but not in many places. However, you must
first get to the shore before you can get on a boat.

>However, OneLook Dictionary does mention the verb "dive" meaning to
>"swim under water" and also to "plunge into water."
>
>Basically, I'm unfamiliar with anssir66's usage of "dive" (and yours,
>too, I guess).

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Leslie Danks - 09 Jan 2009 19:53 GMT

[...]

> There are very few places where one can dive from the shore.

But possibly more than you imagine:

<http://www.diveinthepink.ukdiver.com/divesitehome.htm>
<http://www.diveinthepink.ukdiver.com/worldwide.htm>
<http://www.shorediving.com/>

> Shore diving", where you wade in, is possible in places like the Cayman
> Islands (eg: Eden Roc), but not in many places. However, you must
> first get to the shore before you can get on a boat.

[...]

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tony cooper - 09 Jan 2009 20:49 GMT

>[...]
>>
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><http://www.diveinthepink.ukdiver.com/worldwide.htm>
><http://www.shorediving.com/>

I have only been to two places where shore diving is worthwhile: the
Caymans and the Virgin Islands. You *can* shore dive other places,
but you need a steep drop-off or some underwater architecture that is
interesting. Eden Rock is shallow - about 30' - but has interesting
underwater architecture formed by the coral.

>> Shore diving", where you wade in, is possible in places like the Cayman
>> Islands (eg: Eden Roc), but not in many places. However, you must
>> first get to the shore before you can get on a boat.
>
>[...]

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William - 12 Jan 2009 15:38 GMT

> I have only been to two places where shore diving is worthwhile: the
> Caymans and the Virgin Islands.

Shhh. Don't mention the Vigin Islands.

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WH

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Pat Durkin - 12 Jan 2009 17:02 GMT

>> I have only been to two places where shore diving is worthwhile: the
>> Caymans and the Virgin Islands.
>
> Shhh. Don't mention the Vigin Islands.

My nephew fell in love with Bonaire. Before that, he fell in love with
Belize. Before that he fell in love with diving.
Bonaire / Diving
Because the waters around Bonaire are designated as an official marine
park, diving Bonaire is like diving the Caribbean the way it used to
be - untouched ...

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tony cooper - 12 Jan 2009 19:16 GMT

>>> I have only been to two places where shore diving is worthwhile: the
>>> Caymans and the Virgin Islands.
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>park, diving Bonaire is like diving the Caribbean the way it used to
>be - untouched ...

I've also been to Bonaire. We were able to scuba there by just going
off the dock at our hotel. The Caymans, though, are still my favorite
dive site. So much variety of types of sites.

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Amethyst Deceiver - 12 Jan 2009 15:27 GMT

> >> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or
> >> should it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?
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> Does anyone go to the seaside to "dive"? I would think they go to swim.
> That, or they go to a pool when they want to dive.

In Spain last summer we were surprised on two occasions by divers rising
from the sea like black-clad Venuses. One of them had a spear and a
number of fish dangling from his belt.

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Robert Bannister - 09 Jan 2009 22:41 GMT

>> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or should
>> it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?
>
> Well, I would put the destination first, and then the activity.
> "They went to the sea to dive." "They went to the seaside to dive."

So that's what it means. I couldn't make sense of it and thought "dive"
meant "low-down bar".

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Pat Durkin - 10 Jan 2009 06:45 GMT

>>> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or
>>> should it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?
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> So that's what it means. I couldn't make sense of it and thought
> "dive" meant "low-down bar".

Well, sailors haunts sound like fun.

But, the interpretation of seaside to mean a flat strand is rather
limiting. Don't they do all kinds of cliff diving in Acapulco and some
other places? And other places have quick drop-offs near the shore,
where free-diving and scuba/snorkel diving can be done from anchored
rafts.

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Mike M - 09 Jan 2009 15:23 GMT

On 9 Jan, 14:54, anssi...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or should
> it be "they went to dive to the sea" or are both fine?

Neither sounds right.

I'd go with: "They went to the seaside to dive" (first where they
went, then what they planned to do).

Mike M

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Marius Hancu - 09 Jan 2009 18:30 GMT

> I'd go with: "They went to the seaside to dive" (first where they
> went, then what they planned to do).

Me too.

Marius Hancu

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John Varela - 10 Jan 2009 01:45 GMT

> On 9 Jan, 14:54, anssi...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or should
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> I'd go with: "They went to the seaside to dive" (first where they
> went, then what they planned to do).

Me too, except I'd go with "They went to the seaside to go diving."

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John Holmes - 10 Jan 2009 11:49 GMT

>> On 9 Jan, 14:54, anssi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Hi! is it correct to say "they went to dive to the seaside", or
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>
> Me too, except I'd go with "They went to the seaside to go diving."

Either that or it's a typo for "They went for a drive to the seaside".

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