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Enough already! > Enough already! Indeed. elanders must be pretty tired. He's been having so much fun here that he's hardly taken a break for days.  SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) >Enough already! Agreed. It's become trollish, and people who are arguing with him about who has published what are just playing by his rules. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England >Enough already! Enough what? Can you have too much of a good thing? SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk > Enough already! I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be observed as International Troll Feeding Month? I must be missing memos again! SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >> Enough already! > >I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be >observed as International Troll Feeding Month? The problem is with trolls being given as unwanted Christmas presents. They are "allowed to escape" into the wild after a few days. >I must be missing memos again! SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>> Enough already! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >>I must be missing memos again! "A troll is for life, not just for Christmas!" SignatureTwo of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. I don't think that this is a coincidence. [anonymous] [..] > Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. > I don't think that this is a coincidence. [anonymous] LSD was discovered (first synthesised) by Albert Hoffman at Sandoz Laboratories in Switzerland. Nothing to do with Berkeley, I'm afraid. >[..] >> Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. >> I don't think that this is a coincidence. [anonymous] > >LSD was discovered (first synthesised) by Albert Hoffman at Sandoz >Laboratories in Switzerland. Nothing to do with Berkeley, I'm afraid. Right. And if it had been synthesised at Berkeley they would have called it LAD. The S stands for Säure, German for 'acid'. James >>[..] >>> Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Right. And if it had been synthesised at Berkeley they would have > called it LAD. The S stands for Säure, German for 'acid'. And Unix was written in New Jersey. Of course both found their way to Berkeley, with notorious consequences. SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >>> [..] >>>> Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Right. And if it had been synthesised at Berkeley they would have >> called it LAD. The S stands for Säure, German for 'acid'. Maybe I've been labouring under a delusion for half a lifetime, but I thought the S in LSD came from the s in lysergic.[1] > And Unix was written in New Jersey. > > Of course both found their way to Berkeley, with notorious consequences. Berkeley gets blamed for lots of things, but my recollection is that LSD was popularized in the US by Timothy Leary, then a professor at Harvard (albeit with a doctorate from Berkeley). [1] I had a following sentence that I decided to delete, and a good thing too, because on re-reading it I saw that I'd been gulity of a possessiive "it's". Signatureathel >>>> [..] >>>>> Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Maybe I've been labouring under a delusion for half a lifetime, but I >thought the S in LSD came from the s in lysergic.[1] LSD stands for Lysergsäure-diethylamid. The full English name is lysergic acid diethylamide. I tried it once but I didn't inhale. James >>>>> [..] >>>>>> Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > LSD stands for Lysergsäure-diethylamid. I don't doubt that that is what it stands for in German. But its ready adoption in English suggests that the S was interpreted as something other than an initial of "acid". > The full English name is > lysergic acid diethylamide. Depends on your definition of "full". Some would say its full name is (6aR)-4,6,6a,7,8,9,10,10a- octahydroindolo [4,3-fg] quinoline Signatureathel >>>>>> [..] >>>>>>> Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >adoption in English suggests that the S was interpreted as something >other than an initial of "acid". They may have interpreted it as Ly Sergicacid Diethylamide. The ready adoption of LSD in English could have something to do with the fact that it was marketed under that name by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Sandoz. >> The full English name is >> lysergic acid diethylamide. > >Depends on your definition of "full". Some would say its full name is >(6aR)-4,6,6a,7,8,9,10,10a- octahydroindolo [4,3-fg] quinoline I can see why people just called it "acid" when its use spread beyond the psychiatric hospitals and the CIA experiments. James [...] >>>>>> Right. And if it had been synthesised at Berkeley they would have >>>>>> called it LAD. The S stands for Säure, German for 'acid'. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I can see why people just called it "acid" when its use spread > beyond the psychiatric hospitals and the CIA experiments. OED offers the German as derivation, without comment. (The "s" of their "-säure" is Italic, but it took me a little peering to be sure of it.) SignatureMike. >>>> Enough already! >>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > "A troll is for life, not just for Christmas!" Troll the ancient Yuletide carol. SignatureLew >> Enough already! > >I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be >observed as International Troll Feeding Month? > >I must be missing memos again! Yeah, I wondered that. We've just had one in another newsgroup I frequent. Probably we overlooked a memo last year, headed "Annual Event". Either that or it's the cold weather. Silicaceous life forms get more active as it gets colder, of course. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ >>> Enough already! >> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Event". Either that or it's the cold weather. Silicaceous life forms > get more active as it gets colder, of course. Is the season of troll arrival a variable that I should consider including in the model in appendix 73 described elsethread? SignatureLaura (emulate St. George for email) >>>> Enough already! >>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Is the season of troll arrival a variable that I should consider >including in the model in appendix 73 described elsethread? It may be important enough to justify its own sub-section to appendix 73. Evidence from other groups could be cited, with appropriate references and an appearance in the bibliography. And of course that would increase your sales among the members of the other groups. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ On 12 Jan 2009, Wood Avens wrote >>>>> Enough already! >>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > And of course that would increase your sales among the members > of the other groups. Could there be a sub-sub-section for evidence of trolls who posted in the 18th-century under the name "My Lord Duke"? I understand there's a *huge* market for that sort of thing. SignatureCheers, Harvey CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed > On 12 Jan 2009, Wood Avens wrote > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > I understand there's a *huge* market for that sort of thing. What gets me is this: I'm here to learn about errors like that. That particular one was corrected throughout my manuscript with one keystroke. We yanks dont know stuff like that. That includes agents and publishers. EG [ ... ] > > Could there be a sub-sub-section for evidence of trolls who posted > > in the 18th-century under the name "My Lord Duke"? > > > > I understand there's a *huge* market for that sort of thing. > What gets me is this: I'm here to learn about errors like that. Now it becomes clear. You wanted us to substitute for the research that you ought to have done before starting to write. Your writing is perfect (or so nearly so as to need little attention), and what you need from us are the factual details so you don't have to find them yourself. You sought from a group with the name "alt.usage.english" information to improve the historical accuracy of your writing, not your usage of the language. No wonder you were appalled when we thought you wanted advice on English and cast our pearls before you. It's like going to a dentist in search of a pair of glasses and being appalled when he asks you to open your mouth. > That particular one was corrected throughout my manuscript with one > keystroke. > > We yanks dont know stuff like that. I know how to research. Do you? > That includes agents and publishers. If you're right, how will you ever know whether your book is historically accurate or full of anachronisms? I don't see the members of this group doing the job, and you seem to have alienated most of the groups that might be of some use to you. And what makes you think that any ad hoc collection of newsgroup participants is going to know this stuff any better than you do? Your reasoning is more mixed than my metaphors. SignatureBob Lieblich Windbagging at full tilt >You sought from a group with the name "alt.usage.english" >information to improve the historical accuracy of your writing, not >your usage of the language. I don't think so. At least, all the proffered information relating to historical accuracy has been forcibly rejected. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ > >You sought from a group with the name "alt.usage.english" > >information to improve the historical accuracy of your writing, not > >your usage of the language. > > I don't think so. At least, all the proffered information relating to > historical accuracy has been forcibly rejected. Not quite all, Katy. And he's also acknowledged the correctness of some isolated pointers on matters of usage. It's the old "I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong, so the rest of the time I must be right" shtick. He's just not very good at it. Actually, I think he came here to pick a fight. He certainly succeeded. And a great fighter he is: He's already vanquished me. Just ask him. SignatureBob Lieblich I need a vacation >>>>> Enough already! >>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >references and an appearance in the bibliography. And of course that >would increase your sales among the members of the other groups. Any cyclical patterns are likely to be affected by climate change. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) >>>>>> Enough already! >>>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Any cyclical patterns are likely to be affected by climate change. It's a secular trend, as the actress said to the archbishop. SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >>>> Enough already! >>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Is the season of troll arrival a variable that I should consider > including in the model in appendix 73 described elsethread? I'm still waiting for that autographed copy of your book's xray, Laura. You can keep the book. EG > >>>> Enough already! > >>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > You can keep the book. Eric, for a man who was once, not just a reporter, but "The Reporter", your research skills are sadly lacking. -- WH >> >>>> Enough already! >> >>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Eric, for a man who was once, not just a reporter, but "The Reporter", > your research skills are sadly lacking. We don't know that for sure -- he could just be pretending to be extra thicky -- but it's statistically likely. SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. > >> >>>> Enough already! > >> >>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > We don't know that for sure -- he could just be pretending to be extra > thicky -- but it's statistically likely. No man is an Island, so they say; but eRic is a Land of his own. -- WH >>>>>>> Enough already! >>>>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > We don't know that for sure -- he could just be pretending to be extra > thicky -- but it's statistically likely. I'll pull some of my articles and post them. Really no big deal being a reporter, Roland. If you can be one. EG >>>>>>>> Enough already! >>>>>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > If you can be one. It's no big deal being a researcher, either, provided you stick to writing books in your own field. But there's no accounting for taste (and, for some authors, the reverse). SignatureRoland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food. NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. >>>>>>>>> Enough already! >>>>>>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > books in your own field. But there's no accounting for taste (and, for > some authors, the reverse). I was shocked to learn how boring being a reporter is. Even was I was assigned to cover a sensational murder case, sitting in the courtroom day after day as the thing wended along was for me pure torture. Every reporter wants to write a book, but you never get a chance for that. You come home exhausted and can't type a word. EG > >>>>>>>>> Enough already! > >>>>>>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > EG elanders aka black avenger is ric ricland notorious internet troll, he does not value your opinion, he will attack anyone who disagrees with him in the most vile language complete with the usual pathetic sexual innuendo. elanders has no interest in using these forums for anything other than boosting his flaccid ego by creating conflict and verbally abusing other user's. he can not participate in a topic without it revolving around his views and his alone and will resort to any tactic to achieve his pathetic "goals". here is some of his past history; http://groups.google.ca/groups/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=black+avenger&bt nG=Search&sitesearch=groups.google.com he has no credibility as a writer or journalistic, do not believe anything that dribbles from his mind onto the screen in front of you. there is no limit to the depths he will go in order to "prove" his claims, including LYING about being a decorated Vietnam vet. his claim to fame as a "journalist" amounts to numerous poorly thought out "blogs" that report half truths and innuendo. >elanders aka black avenger is ric ricland notorious internet troll, he >does not value your opinion, he will attack anyone who disagrees with [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >his claim to fame as a "journalist" amounts to numerous poorly thought >out "blogs" that report half truths and innuendo. Why do you waste your time stalking this guy. Nobody here's been gulled by his lies; he's not a very good liar. His personal flaws are obvious. After a short time posting here, what he was about was obvious, and the folks amused themselves at his expense. It's cruel, but he doesn't seem to know. Like so many trolls before him, he will disappear. So teach grandma to suck eggs. Regrettably, by the both of us not ignoring him, we have extended his stay. >> elanders aka black avenger is ric ricland notorious internet troll, he >> does not value your opinion, he will attack anyone who disagrees with [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > grandma to suck eggs. Regrettably, by the both of us not ignoring him, > we have extended his stay. Honestly, Murray, are you capable of saying anything original? Your entire comment is derivative-- content repeated ad nauseam here in Usenet by bores like you over the past 15 years. In fact, Murray, why even bother writing it out? Just write, "Insert boring Usenet riposte here." That way you'll have more time to work on your miniature ant farm. EG >>>>>> Enough already! >>>>> I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > WH Actually, I was very good at it. As far as research is concerned -- what research? I never had to do any in-depth research. EG > > Enough already! > > I've just got one question: When was it decided that January would be > observed as International Troll Feeding Month? > > I must be missing memos again! You're right. It's not making me a better person. Time to file up the filters. SignatureSML |
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