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Irwell - 12 Jan 2009 21:42 GMT
Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
Robert Bannister - 12 Jan 2009 23:57 GMT
> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise

This morning is the beginning of the first day in 2 weeks where the
maximum is expected to be less than 32° - most have been over blood
temperature. Better than that, last night was well under 20°, so I got a
good night's sleep for a change. Beautiful sunshine outside as usual.

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Rob Bannister

Irwell - 13 Jan 2009 03:03 GMT
>> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
>> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
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> temperature. Better than that, last night was well under 20°, so I got a
> good night's sleep for a change. Beautiful sunshine outside as usual.

How much is that in old money?
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 13 Jan 2009 03:12 GMT
> >> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
> >>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
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>
> How much is that in old money?

Speaking of which, today was a bright cold day in January, and none of
the clocks struck thirteen.

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Jerry Friedman
Robin Bignall - 13 Jan 2009 22:48 GMT
>> >> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
>> >>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
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>Speaking of which, today was a bright cold day in January, and none of
>the clocks struck thirteen.

But was it a dark and stormy night?

While driving to a clay-pigeon shoot on Sunday, we noticed that the
outside temperature reading displayed by the car was minus one,
Celsius.  On Monday it was plus nine.
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Herts, England

Robert Bannister - 13 Jan 2009 23:48 GMT
>>> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
>>> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> How much is that in old money?

I never did understand Fahrenheit, so I'm happier with the new.

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Rob Bannister

Frank ess - 14 Jan 2009 01:03 GMT
>>>> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
>>>> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> I never did understand Fahrenheit, so I'm happier with the new.

At college I made some careful effort to absorb Centigrade; some time
later I checked the scale and discovered the trailers to "C" were
transmogrified and I seem to have lost my oneness with it.

No matter: I live in an environment where the only reason to know the
ambient is on days like today and these past (and coming) few, in
order to mention "t-shirt and shorts weather" with the intent of
creating an increased level of stress of some kind in those confined
to less tepid climes.

Yesterday I took a recreational drive, of two hours and a bit, to
Mount Palomar and return via twisty and relatively unoccupied roads.
Today I took a slightly longer but no less enjoyable drive to Tecate,
California (across the border from the beer), at one point catching up
another, less-vigorously-touring oldster pair who very kindly pulled
over and waved me by with a friendly thumbs-up and smiles.

Old money? Mid- to high-70s inland (above 2500 feet), low- to mid-80s
shorely, reversing tomorrow and for the remainder of the week. Inland
lows in the 40s; 50s coastal.

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Frank "Paradise Dessicating Before My Very Eyes" ess

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 14 Jan 2009 12:38 GMT
>No matter: I live in an environment where the only reason to know the
>ambient is on days like today and these past (and coming) few, in
>order to mention "t-shirt and shorts weather" with the intent of
>creating an increased level of stress of some kind in those confined
>to less tepid climes.

"Less temperate" covers both "hotter than temperate" and "cooler than
temperate".

Does "less tepid" similarly include the ranges "hotter than tepid" and "cooler
than tepid"?

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Robert Bannister - 14 Jan 2009 23:23 GMT
> No matter: I live in an environment where the only reason to know the
> ambient is on days like today and these past (and coming) few, in order
> to mention "t-shirt and shorts weather" with the intent of creating an
> increased level of stress of some kind in those confined to less tepid
> climes.

The problem is that the kind of temperatures a person may consider to be
pleasant or unpleasant depends a lot on where you live and what you are
used to. I imagine that my idea of comfortable is a lot warmer that what
a Scotsman would like, and that someone in Phoenix would choose
something warmer than that. I remember walking around Moscow in -5°C in
only a t-shirt and jeans, although I had to put my jacket on when the
wind got up.

When I moved from Meekatharra (about 800 k north of Perth) to Busselton
(about 200 k south of Perth), I was continually cold until I realised
that sitting around in singlet and shorts and no shoes was probably not
a good idea. From there, I moved to Albany (about 400 k south of Perth)
and lived there 11 years before coming to Perth - it took me a couple of
years to used to the heat here.

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Rob Bannister
Western Australia

Frank ess - 15 Jan 2009 16:40 GMT
>> No matter: I live in an environment where the only reason to know
>> the ambient is on days like today and these past (and coming) few,
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> (about 400 k south of Perth) and lived there 11 years before coming
> to Perth - it took me a couple of years to used to the heat here.

Absolutley.

One of the lasting memories of a driving trip into Mexico is the
vision of a very early morning street scene in a Sonoran pueblo where
we stopped for bread, tortillas, and cheese. The people on the street
had shawls over their heads, or hats on, all showing signs of
bundling-up to avoid the chill air. We were t-shirted and shortsed,
and the ambient temperature was probably no lower than the mid-60s F.
We had driven all night to avoid the heat of the day, which they
probably endured without undue stress.

In survival terms, though, at some point relative becomes absolute.
You can either survive or not; you can stand it without major
adjustment, or you can't. Fewer and lesser adjustments are more
desirable, my view.

I can't imagine voluntarily traveling to a place like Chicago in the
winter, but if I am ever forced to, I'll have to invest in a whole new
class of clothing.

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Frank "Complacency ain't all bad" ess

jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 13 Jan 2009 03:33 GMT
> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise

Ver' nahce.

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Jerry Friedman
Maria C. - 13 Jan 2009 03:53 GMT
> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.

> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise

Lovely photo. Your own? (I'm not familiar with the "imagehost" site.)

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Maria C.

Irwell - 13 Jan 2009 16:26 GMT
>> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
>
>> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise
>
> Lovely photo. Your own? (I'm not familiar with the "imagehost" site.)

Thanks Maria, and Jerry. Yes my own picture, taken with a Sony W300.
Imagehost is an easy site to use for transferring pictures to the
web or forums.
Athel Cornish-Bowden - 13 Jan 2009 08:31 GMT
> Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise

Last Wednesday we had our first serious snowfall since 1987;
photographic evidence at

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1607584558&ref=profile

but you may need to be registered with Facebook to see it.

The whole city ground to a halt, and our wimpish trees dropped large
branches onto whatever was underneath them (and in some cases were
uprooted). Since then it has returned to normal and the last three days
have been cloudless and sunny, with comfortable temperatures (maximum
yesterday of about 17°).

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athel

Garrett Wollman - 13 Jan 2009 18:08 GMT
>Last Wednesday we had our first serious snowfall since 1987;
[...]
>The whole city ground to a halt

There are some U.S. cities where that happens every winter.

-GAWollman

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Wood Avens - 13 Jan 2009 18:40 GMT
>Cold and foggy start but now sunshining.
>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0529/misty_sunrise

Wonderfully atmospheric.  

We had cold and mist (in the UK) for a while, and it was beautiful,
but it's now defaulted to the standard murk and squelch.

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