>Or is it just a scene?
>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0620/Winterscene
Would you have us call 911 for the chap through the ice?
>Or is it just a scene?
>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0620/Winterscene
Someone added a story to this one -
http://tinyurl.com/95fk6h

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Mike Lyle - 15 Jan 2009 16:12 GMT
>> Or is it just a scene?
>> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0620/Winterscene
>
> Someone added a story to this one -
> http://tinyurl.com/95fk6h
And there's Tom Stoppard's /After Magritte/.
Standing ovation to Maria, by the way.

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Mike.
> Or is it just a scene?
> http://a.imagehost.org/view/0620/Winterscene
It could be a happy, carefree winter scene in the country. But look
closer: Most of the people are dressed in shades of brown. Even though
there are some red-orange items that should brighten the scene, in truth
they do not; they merely draw our attention for a moment.
And then, we begin to see that no one seems happy, especially the woman
"skate-dancing" with the man in red/orange pants.
We also note the person at the edge of the snow with his (or her?) arm
extended --seemingly asking for a hand up. But: could it be that this
person is intending to pull the dark-robed lady (a nun?) onto -- or
into -- the muddy, slushy area that is not quite ice? Such "accidents"
are so simple to arrange.
Our eyes are now drawn to the rough-looking man leaning against the tree
(at left). He looks as if he's about to pull a gun from the inside
pocket of his coat.
Nearby, the largest of the characters -- the fat man -- has something in
his right hand that looks like a weapon of sorts. Yes, it may be part of
a set of skate blades with ties, but it could easily be a weapon, and he
could easily be about to do harm to the red-jacketed would-be skater.
Note that the fat man has something mysterious in his other hand, too.
Moving on, we see, in the small patch of snow to the left of the
muddy/slushy area, someone in an awkward "on-all-fours" pose. Did he
(I'm assuming "he") fall down? Was he pushed? There's something
not-quite-right going on there, yet no one is offering to help. No one
is even watching.
Looking to the lower right, next to the person who's slipped into the
water, there is a skater carrying something suspicious-looking. A
branch? A weapon? A means of propelling others onto the thinnest,
weakest areas of ice? Again, no one is offering help, or even watching.
As you look, you will see even more, and realize that this painting
depicts stories within stories, evil upon evil.
No, not a happy, carefree winter scene in the country. The buildings'
unseeing, darkened eyes testify to that.
Maria C.
Either serious or not.
>Or is it just a scene?
>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0620/Winterscene
Maria C. has commented on the human aspects of the picture.
I'm interested in the circular island with the concentric step arrangement
with a pole in the middle with soemthing bushy-looking at the top of the pole.
What is it?

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(in alt.usage.english)
Murray Arnow - 15 Jan 2009 12:39 GMT
Peter Duncanson wrote:
>>Or is it just a scene?
>>http://a.imagehost.org/view/0620/Winterscene
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>What is it?
I don't know. Looking at the painting closer, it takes on aspects of a
double exposed photograph. There are oddities that are difficult to
otherwise explain: snow inconsistently placed, trees with and without
foliage, one character with the background appearing through his image,
odd perspectives--that castle doesn't fit in the picture. There's more;
what are those animals that look like deer doing in this picture?
Maybe the photograph is revealing a painting that is beneath another
painting. It's a bit spooky.
LFS - 15 Jan 2009 12:50 GMT
> Peter Duncanson wrote:
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> Maybe the photograph is revealing a painting that is beneath another
> painting. It's a bit spooky.
Breugel the Elder, I think. It's very similar to a painting entitled
"Townsfolk in Winter" and another called "Townsfolk Skating on a Castle
Moat".

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Murray Arnow - 15 Jan 2009 16:13 GMT
>> Peter Duncanson wrote:
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>"Townsfolk in Winter" and another called "Townsfolk Skating on a Castle
>Moat".
I gave this picture a better look and am now convinced it is a
superposition. If you look carefully at the horizon, you will see sail
boats on water. That pole with the bushy top is possibly a pole with a
box-like object atop, but the bushy object is a tree in a different
painting. There are at least three trees growing out of the castle which
perspective-wise don't belong. Another perspective problem is what
appears to be a boy and his father of similar size to a castle tower.
Then the composition gets stranger still if you notice the man and woman
couple who aren't wearing winter garb are posed standing next to two
faltering skaters.
John O'Flaherty - 15 Jan 2009 18:33 GMT
>> Peter Duncanson wrote:
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>"Townsfolk in Winter" and another called "Townsfolk Skating on a Castle
>Moat".
This site attributes it to the Younger -
http://tinyurl.com/6unrsm
The Irwell's image does seem to be double-exposed or photoshopped.
There is also a vertical banner on the left that says "... of
Istanbul".

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