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UC - 16 Jan 2009 17:50 GMT
I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
Victorian novelists:

Dickens was great at characters
Trollope was the supreme stylist
Collins was the master plotter

Anyone agree or disagree?
James Silverton - 16 Jan 2009 18:02 GMT
UC  wrote  on Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:50:43 -0800 (PST):

> Dickens was great at characters
> Trollope was the supreme stylist
> Collins was the master plotter

Dickens wrote highly readable novels, IMHO. I have trouble finishing any
book by Trollope, although TV dramatizations have been quite good, and I
have not read anything by Collins in years.

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Robert Lieblich - 16 Jan 2009 22:23 GMT
> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
> Victorian novelists:
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>
> Anyone agree or disagree?

I disagree with the premise that we ought to be discussing this here
in AUE  I'm certainly no strict adherent to on-topic-ness, but it does
strike me that we ought not to be deliberately starting off-topic
discussion threads of broad scope.

Surely there must be a newsgroup where this is on topic.

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Pat Durkin - 17 Jan 2009 05:18 GMT
>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>> Victorian novelists:
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>
> Surely there must be a newsgroup where this is on topic.

Besides, we talked about Hardy a couple of years ago.  And I think
Irwell mentioned Tess.  So that about uses up the Victorians.  Doesn't
it?
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 17 Jan 2009 05:22 GMT
> >> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
> >> Victorian novelists:
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> Irwell mentioned Tess.  So that about uses up the Victorians.  Doesn't
> it?

There were a couple Brontes--and I feel a /Cranford/ thread coming on.

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Jerry Friedman has not read any novels by people named Mrs.
Pat Durkin - 17 Jan 2009 05:41 GMT
>>>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>>>> Victorian novelists:
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>
> There were a couple Brontes--and I feel a /Cranford/ thread coming on.

Oh, suppress it, please!  I really never cottoned to the Victorians.
But I think it was the history of the era that bored me.  I mean,
British history.  I liked US history just fine.
Chuck Riggs - 17 Jan 2009 16:37 GMT
>>>>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>>>>> Victorian novelists:
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>But I think it was the history of the era that bored me.  I mean,
>British history.  I liked US history just fine.

That carry-on about Henry's wives was quite a show, the Scots have had
an interesting time of it and the Irish have had their ups and downs,
but you must be right: American history has the others beat, hands
down.
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Irwell - 17 Jan 2009 16:06 GMT
>>>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>>>> Victorian novelists:
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>
> There were a couple Brontes--and I feel a /Cranford/ thread coming on.

And Scott with Rebecca (Ivanhoe not the Daphne du Maurier book),
poor old Thackeray deserves a mention, Vanity Fair being what it is.
Those Victorian authors were giants, look how they had to write,
pen and ink, by candle or oil lamp lighting, no easy word processing,
and for the Eanderthal no free internet criticism.
Steve Hayes - 17 Jan 2009 05:54 GMT
>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>> Victorian novelists:
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>
>Surely there must be a newsgroup where this is on topic.

Like rec.arts.books, where I've been crossposting my replies to some of the
more bookish threads here, including this one.

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Chuck Riggs - 17 Jan 2009 16:41 GMT
>>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>>> Victorian novelists:
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>Like rec.arts.books, where I've been crossposting my replies to some of the
>more bookish threads here, including this one.

Leave them out of it, for our group is more interesting. If I wanted
an opinion from one of them, I'd beat it out of them.
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Chuck Riggs - 17 Jan 2009 16:25 GMT
>> I have heard the following generalization about some of the major
>> Victorian novelists:
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>
>Surely there must be a newsgroup where this is on topic.

What a party-pooper, which is not to be confused with a pooper
scooper. There are many reasons for participating in this group. I
happen to enjoy discussions of writing style, Bob, and I know I'm not
alone on that.
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Arcadian Rises - 17 Jan 2009 17:03 GMT
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:23:08 -0500, Robert Lieblich
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Then go ahead, discuss the writing style of the major Victorian
novelists. Now, _that_ is what I call a party-pooper.
Chuck Riggs - 18 Jan 2009 12:18 GMT
>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:23:08 -0500, Robert Lieblich
>>
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>> happen to enjoy discussions of writing style, Bob, and I know I'm not
>> alone on that.

>Then go ahead, discuss the writing style of the major Victorian
>novelists. Now, _that_ is what I call a party-pooper.

For once, I agree with you.
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