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minimus - 18 Jan 2009 16:19 GMT The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. Please do not mind the context for the time being. Among the three below, which one is better? (I am trying to mention to the respondent that he or she would answer the question from the point of view of his or her own preferences)
Based upon your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? According to your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive?
James Hogg - 18 Jan 2009 16:29 GMT >The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >attractive? >With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? It's hard to say which is the better of the three...
If I am asked to choose which of a number of alternatives I find the most attractive, I will always do so based on my own preferences, not somebody else's.
I don't see why you need to ask more than:
Which plan do you find the most attractive?
James
Barbara Bailey - 18 Jan 2009 21:19 GMT >>The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >>Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Which plan do you find the most attractive? I can see a reason, namely if the plans in question will affect a group of people or several groups. In that case, specifying that the answer is to be based on the respondent's own preferences is a way of making sure that they know that what they are being asked is not "Which plan do you think will have the best overall result?' but "Which plan will have the best result for you personally?" If that's the case, I'd use "Based on your own preferences..."
minimus - 19 Jan 2009 10:21 GMT > I can see a reason, namely if the plans in question will affect a group > of people or several groups. In that case, specifying that the answer is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > best result for you personally?" If that's the case, I'd use "Based on > your own preferences..." This is indeed the case. But why not "upon" and "on"?
Martin Ambuhl - 18 Jan 2009 16:36 GMT > The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. > Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > attractive? > With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? One can find something attractive only from one's own preferences. One might guess about what someone else might find attractive, but that will be based upon one's guess about someone else's preferences. All of "Based upon your own preferences", "According to your own preferences", nad "With your own preferences" are otiose and should be omitted.
James Hogg - 18 Jan 2009 17:15 GMT >> The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >> Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >"Based upon your own preferences", "According to your own preferences", >nad "With your own preferences" are otiose and should be omitted. Yes, that's roughly what I said, although I missed the opportunity to use the word "otiose".
I just looked at what Wikipedia says about attraction and found this:
"Judgment of attractiveness of physical traits is partly universal to all human cultures, partly dependent on culture or society or time period, and partly a matter of individual subjective preference.[citation needed]"
Perhaps this questionnaire is urging people to choose according to their individual subjective preference rather than their universal instinct or their sociocultural conditioning?
James
minimus - 18 Jan 2009 17:35 GMT > Yes, that's roughly what I said, although I missed the > opportunity to use the word "otiose". otiisem verbose... I agree actually. I only need to stress that they react to the question with respect to their own preference...
But for the time being, your answers are illuminating. Thanks to all!
CDB - 18 Jan 2009 20:35 GMT >> Yes, that's roughly what I said, although I missed the >> opportunity to use the word "otiose".
> otiisem verbose... I agree actually. > I only need to stress that they react to the question with respect > to their own preference...
> But for the time being, your answers are illuminating. > Thanks to all! There may be a place for repetition in instructions: it isn't ungrammatical, and it emphasises for the reader what you may consider an important point.
Of the three choices, I would prefer the second, "According to your own preferences, ...". The third ("With...") is unidiomatic, and the first ("Based on...") attempts to use an adjective phrase as an adverb, in the same way that "due to" phrases are often used. If you have no objection to "The game was cancelled due to rain," then the first alternative is also acceptable.
Ian Noble - 19 Jan 2009 19:25 GMT >> The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >> Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >One can find something attractive only from one's own preferences. That's too black-and-white. A person can wear many hats at once, and have different preferences according to the role from which the matter in question is seen. Personal versus professional is an obvious area ripe for conflict; what I'd prefer, and what my employers need of me, may be two very different things. Other common opportunities for dichotmies of opinion are between my personal prefences and those in my role as a parent or a spouse.
(WS Gilbert, as so often, took it to the extreme:
Ko-Ko: Pooh-Bah, it seems that the festivities in connection with my approaching marriage must last a week. I should like to do it handsomely, and I want to consult you as to the amount I ought to spend upon them.
Pooh-Bah: Certainly. In which of my capacities? As First Lord of the Treasury, Lord Chamberlain, Attorney General, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Privy Purse, or Private Secretary?
Ko-Ko: Suppose we say as Private Secretary.
Pooh-Bah: Speaking as your Private Secretary, I should say that, as the city will have to pay for it, don't stint yourself, do it well.
Ko-Ko: Exactly - as the city will have to pay for it. That is your advice.
Pooh-Bah:. As Private Secretary. Of course you will understand that, as Chancellor of the Exchequer, I am bound to see that due economy is observed.
Ko-Ko: Oh! But you said just now "Don't stint yourself, do it well".
Pooh-Bah: As Private Secretary.
Ko-Ko: And now you say that due economy must be observed.
Pooh-Bah. As Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Ko-Ko:. I see. Come over here, where the Chancellor can't hear us. (They cross the stage.) Now, as my Solicitor, how do you advise me to deal with this difficulty?
Pooh-Bah: Oh, as your Solicitor, I should have no hesitation in saying "Chance it -"
Ko-Ko: Thank you. (Shaking his hand.) I will.
Pooh-Bah: If it were not that, as Lord Chief Justice, I am bound to see that the law isn't violated.
Ko-Ko:. I see. Come over here where the Chief Justice can't hear us. (They cross the stage.) Now, then, as First Lord of the Treasury?
Pooh-Bah:. Of course, as First Lord of the Treasury, I could propose a special vote that would cover all expenses, if it were not that, as Leader of the Opposition, it would be my duty to resist it, tooth and nail. Or, as Paymaster General, I could so cook the accounts that, as Lord High Auditor, I should never discover the fraud. But then, as Archbishop of Titipu, it would be my duty to denounce my dishonesty and give myself into my own custody as first Commissioner of Police.
Ko-Ko: That's extremely awkward.
Pooh-Bah. I don't say that all these distinguished people couldn't be squared; but it is right to tell you that they wouldn't be sufficiently degraded in their own estimation unless they were insulted with a very considerable bribe.)
Cheers - Ian
HVS - 18 Jan 2009 17:04 GMT On 18 Jan 2009, minimus wrote
> The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the > US. Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most > attractive? "Based upon" sounds more natural to me than the other two.
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Derek Turner - 18 Jan 2009 17:57 GMT > Based upon your own preferences, which plan do you find the most > attractive? According to your own preferences, which plan do you find > the most attractive? > With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? It's the better of two, the best of three (or more).
IMO of the three options offered, the first is best.
Pat Durkin - 18 Jan 2009 18:33 GMT > The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. > Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > attractive? > With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? Which plan do you prefer?
Chuck Riggs - 19 Jan 2009 15:55 GMT >> The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >> Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Which plan do you prefer? We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another question.
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Pat Durkin - 19 Jan 2009 17:56 GMT >>> The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >>> Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another > question. Ah. In the interest of brevity, and following the example of the OP, I did not use quotation marks. Believe me, I thought of them.
How far does this get me?
Lew - 20 Jan 2009 01:42 GMT "Chuck Riggs" wrote:
>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another >> question.
> Ah. In the interest of brevity, and following the example of the OP, I > did not use quotation marks. Believe me, I thought of them. > > How far does this get me? How far would you like to go?
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Pat Durkin - 20 Jan 2009 03:28 GMT > "Chuck Riggs" wrote: >>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > How far would you like to go? Now? Here?
Chuck Riggs - 20 Jan 2009 14:17 GMT >> "Chuck Riggs" wrote: >>>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Now? Here? Do you feel a need for quotation marks, now?
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Pat Durkin - 21 Jan 2009 04:42 GMT >>> "Chuck Riggs" wrote: >>>>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Do you feel a need for quotation marks, now? Sorry, Chuck. I was taken by the similarity between the possible mishyphen, comparing "coworker" with "nowhere". I mean, "now here" has struck me as being antonymous to "no where", for many long years, so I thought to indulge myself in silly word play.
Chuck Riggs - 21 Jan 2009 13:59 GMT >>>> "Chuck Riggs" wrote: >>>>>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Sorry, Chuck. No need, Pat. Not knowing what else to say, I was pretending to be a computer in one of those simplistic AI programs meant to simulate a person. I thought my use of "feel" would make that clear, but evidently I blew it.
>I was taken by the similarity between the possible >mishyphen, comparing "coworker" with "nowhere". I mean, "now here" has >struck me as being antonymous to "no where", for many long years, so I >thought to indulge myself in silly word play. That comparison never occurred to me. "Now here" for "nowhere", eh? Very Joyceian of you, I must say. I hope the couplet doesn't get stuck in my mind, but I fear it is too late.
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Pat Durkin - 21 Jan 2009 14:25 GMT >>>>> "Chuck Riggs" wrote: >>>>>>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Very Joyceian of you, I must say. I hope the couplet doesn't get stuck > in my mind, but I fear it is too late. Better late than ever, no? (heh, heh)
Chuck Riggs - 22 Jan 2009 13:46 GMT >>>>>> "Chuck Riggs" wrote: >>>>>>>> We'll get nowhere if respondents answer a question with another [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Better late than ever, no? (heh, heh) As they say, playfully, in Ireland, "Go away!"
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Don Phillipson - 18 Jan 2009 19:59 GMT > The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. > Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > attractive? > With your own preferences, which plan do you find the most attractive? "Your own preferences" seems redundant. We do not normally ask someone to choose (a) on the basis of attractiveness (b) using someone else's preferences. "Find" seems redundant as well.
Why not ask simply: "Which is the most attractive plan?" (We assume your main interest is the response, not the question however phrased by you.)
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2009 04:23 GMT > > The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. > > Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ask someone to choose (a) on the basis of attractiveness (b) using > someone else's preferences. We can.
> "Find" seems redundant as well. > > Why not ask simply: "Which is the most attractive plan?" (We > assume your main interest is the response, not the question > however phrased by you.) "Which is the most attractive plan?" I think really could be read as "Which plan is likely to attract the most people?" "Which plan is the most attractive to you?" solves that.
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Chuck Riggs - 19 Jan 2009 16:09 GMT >> > The following sentence will appear in a web questionnaire in the US. >> > Please do not mind the context for the time being. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >"Which is the most attractive plan?" I think really could be read as >"Which plan is likely to attract the most people?" With all due respect, I think that is unlikely. This is the best choice, IMO.
> "Which plan is the >most attractive to you?" solves that. It sounds slightly awkward, but I think it is a reasonable choice.
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minimus - 18 Jan 2009 20:37 GMT Just to ask again, at the expense of annoying you (if you have already saw my request below some days ago):
I am going to carry out a web questionnaire in the US on 1500 people. I prepared my questionnaire. I wish some American people have a look at it and express their opinon. This is to insure against any possible simple mistakes I would have made during the preparation. If anyone of you would be interested in having a look at it and providing simple suggestions for improvement, please let me know. Someone has already helped me out here, but I would be pleased to have more views.
P.S: I am not a native English speaker and I currently doing a PhD.
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