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Discussion Groups / English Usage / January 2009"Once time..."
Hi, I have some linguistic problem. English is not my native language but I use it very often. Very often also I'm saying "once time ..." ex: "Once time I met a man from France". So I have discussion with my friend about this, as he said that this is incorrect and I should say only "once" without "time" like "Once I met a man from France". But for me it seems that this two examples have a different meaning. Could anybody help me with this? I know that it may look like a silly discussion but for me it's very serious and important... :) Thank's for answer, best regards Kamil > Hi, > I have some linguistic problem. English is not my native language but [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > best regards > Kamil It appears that you want to use the phrase "One time" although "Once" is also fine. In this sentence they have the same meaning. "Once time" is not correct. I am sure another poster in aue can give you the technical explaination why. John Kane Kingston ON Canada Kamil K.: >> I have some linguistic problem. I have a linguistic problem. >> English is not my native language but I use it very often. >> Very often also I'm saying "once time ..." Very often I say >> ex: e.g. >> "Once time I met a man from France". So I have discussion I had a discussion >> with my friend about this, as he said that this is incorrect >> and I should say only "once" without "time" like "Once I met >> a man from France". John Kane: > It appears that you want to use the phrase "One time" although "Once" > is also fine. In this sentence they have the same meaning. I agree. A third possibility is "once upon a time", but you would not use it in ordinary speech. This is an old-fashioned expression traditionally used at the beginning of "fairy tales" for children. If you don't think "once" has the meaning you want, how do you think the meaning is different from what you want? > "Once time" is not correct. I am sure another poster in aue can give > you the technical explaination why. "Once" is only an adverb, not an adjective, so it can't modify the noun "time". The fact that the whole expression "one time" is serving as an adverb does not change this.  SignatureMark Brader "If the right people don't have power... Toronto the wrong people get it... ordinary voters!" msb@vex.net -- Lynn & Jay: YES, PRIME MINISTER My text in this article is in the public domain. Mark Brader filted: >I agree. A third possibility is "once upon a time", but you would >not use it in ordinary speech. This is an old-fashioned expression >traditionally used at the beginning of "fairy tales" for children. Uh-oh...Mary Hopkins STS....r Signature"You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!" > Mark Brader filted: >> I agree. A third possibility is "once upon a time", but you would >> not use it in ordinary speech. This is an old-fashioned expression >> traditionally used at the beginning of "fairy tales" for children. > > Uh-oh...Mary Hopkins STS....r "Hopkin", innit, SignatureDavid the Omrud filted: >> Mark Brader filted: >>> I agree. A third possibility is "once upon a time", but you would [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >"Hopkin", innit, I typed it with the S into the Wikipedia search window, and the appropriate window came up...I failed to notice that I had been "redirected"....r Signature"You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" "You got Weltanschauung in my Schadenfreude!" >> Hi, >> I have some linguistic problem. English is not my native language but [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > "Once time" is not correct. I am sure another poster in aue can give > you the technical explaination why. I have no idea why, but one may easily compare it to "two times" and "twice"; "twice times" can only be used in multiplication tables as in "twice (times) three is six", and I wouldn't even say that myself. SignatureRob Bannister KamilK <kx_2@interia.pl> wrote in news:4232de35-53bb-44ff-b857-527c31feaf57 @f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com: > Hi, > I have some linguistic problem. English is not my native language but [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > best regards > Kamil "Once I met a man..." or "One time I met a man...". The difference in meaning is very slight, so slight that I wouldn't worry about it. > KamilK <kx_2@interia.pl> wrote in news:4232de35-53bb-44ff-b857-527c31feaf57 > @f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The difference in meaning is very slight, so slight that I wouldn't worry > about it. Agreed, but I would say, "I once met a man..." or "I met a man one time..." SignatureJohn Varela Trade OLD lamps for NEW for email Thank you for many ansewers. So can I say for example: "One time I met a squirrel in my garden" or "One time I didn't think that grammar is important"? :) regards KK >Thank you for many ansewers. >So can I say for example: "One time I met a squirrel in my garden" or >"One time I didn't think that grammar is important"? :) >regards As to the squirrel, yes. "One time I didn't think that grammar was important." This would mean that there was one instance or occurrence of you not considering grammar important. This is probably not what you mean. What I think you mean is that there was a period when you didn't think grammar was important, but you do consider it important now. Two ways of saying that are: "At one time, I didn't think that grammar was important." "Once I didn't think that grammar was important." SignatureJohn >Thank you for many ansewers. >So can I say for example: "One time I met a squirrel in my garden" or Americans would not say "I met a squirrel". We would say we saw a squirrel or encountered a squirrel. There are situations where you'd say "I met up with a squirrel", but that implies something happened as a result of the encounter. >"One time I didn't think that grammar is important"? :) That sentence doesn't make sense. "At one time, I didn't think that grammar was important" would normal. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida tony cooper filted: >>So can I say for example: "One time I met a squirrel in my garden" or > >Americans would not say "I met a squirrel". We would say we saw a >squirrel or encountered a squirrel. There are situations where you'd >say "I met up with a squirrel", but that implies something happened as >a result of the encounter. One can say "halfway up, I met the barrel coming down", and the significance is clearly understood in context by Brits and Seppos alike...clearly this usage is not dependent upon the humanity of what is being met....r Signature"You got Schadenfreude on my Weltanschauung!" 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