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should not only be..., but also... vs should be not only.... but also

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tuyetnhungtsc@gmail.com - 23 Jan 2009 17:43 GMT
Hi all,

I am confused with the usage of " should" conbined with "not only...
but also...".

Does it go this way: Should not only be..... but also......

Or this way: Should be not only..... but also......

Thanks,
Derek Turner - 23 Jan 2009 18:04 GMT
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:43:26 -0800, tuyetnhungtsc wrote:

> Does it go this way: Should not only be..... but also......
>
> Or this way: Should be not only..... but also......

Either would be understood. Neither is 'wrong'. The second is more
elegant in my opinion, others may differ.
tuyetnhungtsc@gmail.com - 23 Jan 2009 18:10 GMT
Thanks Derek

I appreciate this.

> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:43:26 -0800, tuyetnhungtsc wrote:
> > Does it go this way: Should not only be..... but also......
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> Either would be understood. Neither is 'wrong'. The second is more
> elegant in my opinion, others may differ.
Mike Lyle - 23 Jan 2009 18:55 GMT
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:43:26 -0800, tuyetnhungtsc wrote:
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> Either would be understood. Neither is 'wrong'. The second is more
> elegant in my opinion, others may differ.

I think there's more than elegance at stake here, though elegance is
quite as important in language as in mathematics. When "be" comes before
"not only", we have a right to expect it to be the verb of the "but
also" part. When, on the other hand, "be" comes after "not only", we
need (to avoid the famous garden path) a verb in the "but also"--but
that verb may, if you feel like it for some reason, be "be". This is why
the second version feels more elegant to you, I think.

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Mark Brader - 23 Jan 2009 19:36 GMT
"Tuyetnhungtsc":
>>> Does it go this way: Should not only be..... but also......
>>> Or this way: Should be not only..... but also......

Derek Turner:
>> Either would be understood. Neither is 'wrong'.

Actually, that depends on the rest of the sentence.  Please don't ask
questions about such short fragments.  At least give us a complete
sentence.  More context is usually better.

>> The second is more elegant in my opinion, others may differ.

Mike Lyle:
> I think there's more than elegance at stake here, though elegance is
> quite as important in language as in mathematics. When "be" comes before
> "not only", we have a right to expect it to be the verb of the "but
> also" part. ...

Exactly.  Compare:

1. It should be not only safe but also give privacy.
2. It should not only be safe but also give privacy.
3. It should be not only safe but also be private.
4. It should not only be safe but also be private.
5. It should be not only safe but also private.
6. It should not only be safe but also private.

Numbers 1-4 have a second verb, which may or not be the same as
the first verb, while 5 and 6 have only one verb.

Numbers 2, 4, and 5 are correct.  Numbers 1 and 3 are wrong.
I think Derek wasn't thinking about those cases.

> When, on the other hand, "be" comes after "not only", we need ...
> a verb in the "but also"...

Mike is saying that number 6 is also wrong, but I think this one
is a matter of opinion.  Certainly it is fairly often used.  I think
it can be analyzed as having a repetition of "be" understood.  In
other words, 6 is possible as a shortened variant of 4.  I don't
think it should be called wrong, but you might prefer to avoid it
in case others might feel it is.
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Cece - 23 Jan 2009 20:53 GMT
> "Tuyetnhungtsc":
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> My text in this article is in the public domain.

6 is wrong; it lacks parallelism.
tuyetnhungtsc@gmail.com - 25 Jan 2009 12:54 GMT
Thanks guys. I already use 5 for my text since it match the best my
sentence:

It should be not only accurate but also computationally efficient.

Thanks.

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