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Arne H. Wilstrup - 24 Jan 2009 12:33 GMT
"Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have read
this in connection with Barack Obama's statement before he
became president of USA).

I read it as his office is executed before he enters the
place.

What is the understanding in a native speaker's ear?
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 24 Jan 2009 13:03 GMT
>"Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have read
>this in connection with Barack Obama's statement before he
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>
>What is the understanding in a native speaker's ear?

In this case "execution" means "performance" and "office" means:

   A duty attaching to a person's station, position, or employment; a duty,
   service, or charge falling or assigned to one; a service or task to be
   performed; a person's business, function, or part.

So, "Before he enters on the execution of his office" means "Before he starts
performing his duties".

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 24 Jan 2009 13:05 GMT
>>"Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have read
>>this in connection with Barack Obama's statement before he
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>So, "Before he enters on the execution of his office" means "Before he starts
>performing his duties".

Sorry. I meant to say also that "enters on" is simply a formal way of saying
"begins".

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Don Phillipson - 24 Jan 2009 13:04 GMT
> "Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have read
> this in connection with Barack Obama's statement before he
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What is the understanding in a native speaker's ear?

The source phrase is badly muddled.   The core idea is
apparently Obama's taking office (i.e. being sworn in as
president, I suppose.)   We talk correctly about exercising
the responsibilities of office, but not about executing an
office.   The source phrase breaks no rule of grammar
but is inexact to a degree nowadays common in newspapers
although 40 years ago strict editors would have noticed
and correcteed it.

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Don Aitken - 24 Jan 2009 14:55 GMT
>> "Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have read
>> this in connection with Barack Obama's statement before he
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>although 40 years ago strict editors would have noticed
>and correcteed it.

There is nothing muddled or inexact about it; it is just that it was
written more than 200 years ago. 18th-century usage may be no longer
current, but that does not make it wrong, and no-one is entitled to
"correct" it.

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Cece - 24 Jan 2009 19:58 GMT
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:04:09 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
>
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It's politico-legal speak.
Mark Brader - 24 Jan 2009 22:57 GMT
Arne Wilstrup:
>>> "Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have read
>>> this in connection with Barack Obama's statement before he
>>> became president of USA).

Actually it was about 6 minutes after he became president.

>>> I read it as his office is executed before he enters the
>>> place.

I think you read it as "Before he enters, on the execution of..."
But actually "enters on" is a phrasal verb here, today a rather
formal one.

Don Phillipson:
>> The source phrase is badly muddled.

Don Aitken:
> There is nothing muddled or inexact about it; it is just that it was
> written more than 200 years ago. ...

Actually, the way it was written in 1787 was "Before he enter on..."
In those days this sort of expression required a subjunctive; today
it requires the indicative, "enters".
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Arne H. Wilstrup - 24 Jan 2009 23:17 GMT
> Arne Wilstrup:
>>>> "Before he enters on the execution of his office" (I have
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> subjunctive; today
> it requires the indicative, "enters".

Thanx!
 
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