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Discussion Groups / English Usage / February 2009This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for a comparison.
Hi all, The following sentence is excerpted from one of my paper: ---------------------- This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for a comparison. ---------------------- But I'm afraid that it's not so succinct and can be rewritten as the following ones: 1- This example is used by Li, and is recomputed here for a comparison. 2- This example is used by Li, and recomputed here for a comparison. Am I right?  Signature.: Hongyi Zhao [ hongyi.zhao AT gmail.com ] Free as in Freedom :. > Hi all, > > The following sentence is excerpted from one of my paper: 'is an excerpt from one of my paperS' excerpt as a verb is valid but not idiomatic here. > ---------------------- > This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for a comparison. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Am I right? Yes, but drop the 'a' for idiomatic English. >> Hi all, >> >> The following sentence is excerpted from one of my paper: > >'is an excerpt from one of my paperS' excerpt as a verb is valid but not >idiomatic here. Thanks, I've got it. >> ---------------------- >> This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for a comparison. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Yes, but drop the 'a' for idiomatic English. Thanks again. Signature.: Hongyi Zhao [ hongyi.zhao AT gmail.com ] Free as in Freedom :. >>> Hi all, >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks, I've got it. You're welcome. I had to look 'excerpt' up in the dictionary because I was convinced it was only a noun. I was wrong, but I guess it's used 1000 + times as a noun for every one time it's used as a verb. I'd never heard it in all my 50+ years as a BrE speaker, googling it seems to be a publisher/journalist piece of jargon. > > Hi all, > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Yes, but drop the 'a' for idiomatic English. I'd also recommend, in your two numbered substitutes, dropping the comma. Your editing has converted the original sentence, which consisted of two independent clauses, into a sentence with one independent clause containing a compound predicate. In such sentence forms, except where the text may be confusing in the absence of a comma, the comma is superfluous. SignatureBob Lieblich Actually recommending omission of commas >I'd also recommend, in your two numbered substitutes, dropping the >comma. Your editing has converted the original sentence, which >consisted of two independent clauses, into a sentence with one >independent clause containing a compound predicate. In such sentence >forms, except where the text may be confusing in the absence of a >comma, the comma is superfluous. Thanks, I've got it. Another issue: why only your reply hasn't been theaded followed by other theads in my agent? Signature.: Hongyi Zhao [ hongyi.zhao AT gmail.com ] Free as in Freedom :. Hongyi Zhao, in response to Bob Lieblich: > Another issue: why only your reply hasn't been theaded followed by > other theads in my agent? Probably because it's threading by subject line and the subject line has changed. Hongyi Zhao's original subject line was exactly 80 characters long and read "Subject: This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for a comparison." When Derek Turner posted his followup, the addition of "Re: " made the line 84 characters long, and his posting software decided to fold it before the last space, putting "Subject: Re: This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for a" on the first line, and " comparison." on the second line. But Bob's newsreader apparently misinterpreted this form of continuation line, or else Bob accidentally edited it while composing the followup, and the whitespace between "a" and "comparison" got dropped. The subject line was again folded before the last space, but now it read "Subject: Re: This example is used by Li, and it is recomputed here for " on the first line and " acomparison." on the second one. The fact that Bob's newsreader supplied a trailing space when refolding the line suggests it thinks that the sequence of a newline followed by whitespace is supposed to be reduced to nothing, instead of to whitespace, and that's why it misinterpreted the subject line as posted by Derek. The way I read RFC 722 (whose syntax RFC 1036 borrows), it's Bob's newsreader that's wrong. SignatureMark Brader "By this time I was feeling guilty. No, correction, Toronto I was feeling that I *should* feel guilty ..." msb@vex.net -- Jude Devereaux My text in this article is in the public domain. > HThe way I read RFC 722 (whose syntax RFC 1036 borrows), > it's Bob's newsreader that's wrong. Takes after it'z owner, innit? I've admitted before that I'm using an antique newsreader. It seems not to create many problems, but every now and then something goes awry. If that sort of thing happened with greater frequency, I might be moved to update despite the discomfort I'd expect in the transition, but this (snipped) one is the first in at least a couple of years and seems unlikely to recur. (Among other things, it requires a subject line almost exactly 80 characters long.) Still, apologies for any confusion it caused. Thanks to Mark for the explanation. SignatureBob Lieblich Who drives a Hupmobile (no, not really) >>I'd also recommend, in your two numbered substitutes, dropping the >>comma. Your editing has converted the original sentence, which [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Another issue: why only your reply hasn't been theaded followed by >other theads in my agent? You are using Agent 5, so look in "tools/options/display/message list pane" and if there's a tick in "start a new thread when a follow-up subject changes" remove it, and then even if the header changes the message will be correctly threaded. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England >You are using Agent 5, so look in "tools/options/display/message list >pane" and if there's a tick in "start a new thread when a follow-up >subject changes" remove it, and then even if the header changes the >message will be correctly threaded. Very good, thanks a lot, it does the trick. Regards, Signature.: Hongyi Zhao [ hongyi.zhao AT gmail.com ] Free as in Freedom :. |
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