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dearcilla - 23 Apr 2009 05:13 GMT
Signs saying

"No loitering in lobby
  by management"

are posted all over the vestibule of a downtown drugstore I frequent.

I do not think it means what they think it means.
David DeLaney - 23 Apr 2009 07:22 GMT
>Signs saying
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I do not think it means what they think it means.

I'm guessing they have some Daddy issues in-house...

Dave
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Matthew L. Martin - 23 Apr 2009 12:00 GMT
> Signs saying
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I do not think it means what they think it means.

This brings to mind a sign posted in front of a parking place at the
four corners in the center of town:

    NO
 PARKING
 POLICE
   CARS
   ONLY

For whatever reason, there was often a police car parked there.

Matthew (I wackytyped four corners at the center of time. BAND NAME)

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barbara@bookpro.com - 23 Apr 2009 12:10 GMT
>> Signs saying
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>For whatever reason, there was often a police car parked there.

Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of

SLOW
CHILDREN
PLAYING

signs.

I thought we weren't allowed to call them "slow" anymore.

BW
Doctroid - 23 Apr 2009 12:58 GMT
> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I thought we weren't allowed to call them "slow" anymore.

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w=500&h=352

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John Schmidt - 23 Apr 2009 16:29 GMT
> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I thought we weren't allowed to call them "slow" anymore.

I'm pretty sure "trainable" is the currently acceptable term.

JS
David DeLaney - 23 Apr 2009 17:47 GMT
>> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>I'm pretty sure "trainable" is the currently acceptable term.

But then when you reach the zone edge they just pile up there waiting for you
to come back through!

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R H Draney - 23 Apr 2009 19:14 GMT
John Schmidt filted:

>> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>I'm pretty sure "trainable" is the currently acceptable term.

Slow enough and they're easy pickings for the trains....r

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alien8er - 23 Apr 2009 17:55 GMT
On Apr 23, 4:10 am, barb...@bookpro.com wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:00:08 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> BW

 I've seen those. I always wonder what parents would not just admit
to, but put up signage about, having a "slow" kid.

 Dr. Hot"not so fast meself, sometimes"Salt
James Hogg - 23 Apr 2009 18:20 GMT
>>> Signs saying
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>I thought we weren't allowed to call them "slow" anymore.

Nowadays they're "differently speeded".

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Wiblur the Once - 23 Apr 2009 19:39 GMT
barbara@bookpro.com mumbled something about:

> SLOW
> CHILDREN
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I thought we weren't allowed to call them "slow" anymore.

There was a small trailer park near me that had a sign that Read:

Dead End
Slow Children
Playing

Thanks to a graffiti pranksters it was changed to:

Dead
   Children
Playing

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Tim Serpas - 23 Apr 2009 21:43 GMT
>Thanks to a graffiti pranksters it was changed to:
>
>Dead
>    Children
>Playing

A sign that stayed up outside a subdivision for
many years after construction was completed:

 Tresspass    !
Area   trolled By
Security  lard

W
Nick - 24 Apr 2009 19:26 GMT
>>Thanks to a graffiti pranksters it was changed to:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Area   trolled By
> Security  lard

If we're doing the removing letters game.  Liverpool buses used to have
a notice tranferred onto the windows saying something headed "Merseyside
Passenger Transport Executive" and forbidding various sorts of
vandalism.  It ended "The Executive will press for highest penalties
against offenders".  In several cases wits had removed all of "for",
"ghe" and "t" from "highest" and "alt" and "e" from "penalties".

I always thought it was far more of a threat myself.
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R H Draney - 24 Apr 2009 22:02 GMT
Nick filted:

>If we're doing the removing letters game.  Liverpool buses used to have
>a notice tranferred onto the windows saying something headed "Merseyside
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I always thought it was far more of a threat myself.

The traditional (almost obligatory) defacement of hot-air hand dryers was to
change the instructions:

 Press button
 Rub hands under warm air
 Stops automatically

to

 Press butt
 Rub hands under arm
 Stops atomically

(Noted: that the letter most often found to be removed from "Black Angus"
restaurant is the G)....r

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Glenn Knickerbocker - 24 Apr 2009 23:10 GMT
I think you mean:
>   Press butt
>   Rub  a    gent   under  arm
>   Stop    to  ticall

¬R
Adam Funk - 05 May 2009 18:48 GMT
> The traditional (almost obligatory) defacement of hot-air hand dryers was to
> change the instructions:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>   Rub hands under arm
>   Stops atomically

I will take this opportunity to summarize one of my main rants.

Businesses that install driers without a paper alternative are saying
to their employees and customers, "We'll let you wash your hands since
we legally have to, but **** you, drying them is your own problem."

The dirtbags who run the hand-drier companies and the ones who specify
them in buildings should NOT be allowed to have towels in their homes.
They should be forced to dry with their own dog food.

> (Noted: that the letter most often found to be removed from "Black Angus"
> restaurant is the G)....r

You saw the Berger & Wyse cartoon in The Guardian too?

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Doug - 06 May 2009 04:48 GMT
>> The traditional (almost obligatory) defacement of hot-air hand dryers was
>> to change the instructions:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You saw the Berger & Wyse cartoon in The Guardian too?

A couple of years ago a many and his son was in the rest room where he was
giving  the son careful instructions on washing and drying his hands. When
he got to the drying part he showed his son how to rub his hands together
under the air, then in the same tone of voice he said " now you wipe your
hands dry on your pants." I just cracked up because that's what I think
just about what every guy does.
Mike Lyle - 25 Apr 2009 23:30 GMT
[...]
> If we're doing the removing letters game.  Liverpool buses used to
> have a notice tranferred onto the windows saying something headed
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I always thought it was far more of a threat myself.

My son, very young at the time, was watching a televised rugby match
with me when he first became aware of the word "penalised": it caused
him a certain wincing till we sorted it out.

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Joe Fineman - 06 May 2009 01:17 GMT
>   Tresspass    !
> Area   trolled By
> Security  lard

Boston subway cars bear signs on the end doors that say

 NO PASSING THROUGH

This is easily edited to

 NO  a.s      ROUGH

or, with a little more care, to

 NO  a.s       OUCH

ObEnglish:  There used to be signs on some of the side doors that said

 DO NOT LEAN AGAINST

Evidently the object of the preposition was not the word "door", but
the door itself -- a remarkable extension of language.
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R H Draney - 06 May 2009 02:24 GMT
Joe Fineman filted:

>ObEnglish:  There used to be signs on some of the side doors that said
>
>  DO NOT LEAN AGAINST
>
>Evidently the object of the preposition was not the word "door", but
>the door itself -- a remarkable extension of language.

Cf. the legend stencilled on Keith Moon's chair on the "Who Are You" album
cover, released just weeks before his death:

 http://z.hubpages.com/u/793055_f520.jpg

....r

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TimC - 24 Apr 2009 02:55 GMT
> barbara@bookpro.com mumbled something about:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Slow Children
> Playing

There are the kids that are going to some dead end job for Wall Mart?

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R H Draney - 24 Apr 2009 08:43 GMT
TimC filted:

>>  
>> There was a small trailer park near me that had a sign that Read:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>There are the kids that are going to some dead end job for Wall Mart?

It's probably a very old sign...those kids grew up to be Huntz Hall, Leo Gorcie,
Gabe Dell, and Billy Halop....r

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Peter Bennett - 24 Apr 2009 02:48 GMT
>Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>BW

When the children grow up, they'll be found near signs saying:

SLOW
MEN
WORKING

Then there's the local veterinary clinic sign:
    DOG
 HOSPITAL
    CAT

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Glenn Knickerbocker - 24 Apr 2009 15:04 GMT
>    DOG
>  HOSPITAL
>    CAT

Well, duh.  Who else would be sadistic enough to be a nurse in a dog
hospital?

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alien8er - 24 Apr 2009 20:03 GMT
> >Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>   HOSPITAL
>         CAT

 First time I've seen "hospital" used as a verb.

 Dr. HotSalt
Robert Bannister - 25 Apr 2009 00:19 GMT
>>> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>>> SLOW
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>   First time I've seen "hospital" used as a verb.

I thought "dog" was the verb and "hospital" an adjective.

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Nick - 25 Apr 2009 06:39 GMT
>>>> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>>>> SLOW
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> I thought "dog" was the verb and "hospital" an adjective.

Sometimes the signs say "Speed Kills" and other times they say "Speed
Cameras".  How does it do that?
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alien8er - 25 Apr 2009 07:51 GMT
> >>>> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
> >>>> SLOW
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Sometimes the signs say "Speed Kills" and other times they say "Speed
> Cameras".  How does it do that?

 First time I've seen "cameras" used as a verb.

 Dr. Hot"deja vu"Salt
Otto Bahn - 27 Apr 2009 03:18 GMT
> Sometimes the signs say "Speed Kills" and other times they say "Speed
> Cameras". How does it do that?
<
<  First time I've seen "cameras" used as a verb.

Be careful.  What his bow ties is really a camera.

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David DeLaney - 25 Apr 2009 09:28 GMT
>> I thought "dog" was the verb and "hospital" an adjective.
>
>Sometimes the signs say "Speed Kills" and other times they say "Speed
>Cameras".  How does it do that?

Just different ways of shooting, is all. Remember, fruit flies like a bananana.

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Mark Edwards - 25 Apr 2009 11:13 GMT
>Sometimes the signs say "Speed Kills" and other times they say
>"Speed Cameras".  How does it do that?

By increasing the voltage until the camera flashes out in a brilliant,
ionizing burst of x-radiation and gamma particles, thus destroying vehicle
and pedestrian traffic within three city blocks. Overlap effects are left
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Robert Bannister - 26 Apr 2009 00:22 GMT
>>>>> Recently, the road to my neighborhood sprouted a couple of
>>>>> SLOW
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Sometimes the signs say "Speed Kills" and other times they say "Speed
> Cameras".  How does it do that?

In both cases, you are being urged to hurry: bring on the kills and
cameras more quickly.

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Otto Bahn - 24 Apr 2009 16:48 GMT
>>This brings to mind a sign posted in front of a parking place at the
>>four corners in the center of town:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> CHILDREN
> PLAYING

There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:

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| <-- Durham |
+------------+

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You can't get there from here!
Adam Funk - 27 Apr 2009 11:30 GMT
> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You can't get there from here!

That's Athens.

There's an old joke about a tourist asking for directions; the local
says, "If I wanted to get there, I wouldn't start from here."  I often
use this as a metaphor for adding functions to software.

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Dr Peter Young - 27 Apr 2009 12:46 GMT
>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> You can't get there from here!

> That's Athens.

> There's an old joke about a tourist asking for directions; the local
> says, "If I wanted to get there, I wouldn't start from here."

Usually attributed this side of the Pond to the Irish. A neat (true)
variation of this was told by the late Clement Freud. He was driving
in Ireland, and in the middle of the country asked a local which of
two equidistant pubs he would recommend for lunch. The local
considered  for a while, and then said, "Sure, if you went to either,
you'd wish you'd gone to the other one".

With best wishes,

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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 27 Apr 2009 16:55 GMT
>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>considered  for a while, and then said, "Sure, if you went to either,
>you'd wish you'd gone to the other one".

Another tourist-seeking-directions joke, set in Northern Ireland.
(Not in dialect.)

Tourist in car stops to ask directions from locals standing outside a
small cluster of houses.

Tourist: Good afternoon. What is the name of this place?

LocalA: Ballysomewhere.

Tourist: Thank you. How do I get to Belfast from here?

LocalA gives directions. Tourist drives off.

LocalB to LocalA: Why did you send him down that road? It's not the road
to Belfast.

LocalA: I felt sorry for him. If he doesn't know where he is in a tiny
place like Ballysomewhere he would be in terrible trouble in a large
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Otto Bahn - 27 Apr 2009 16:28 GMT
>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> says, "If I wanted to get there, I wouldn't start from here."  I often
> use this as a metaphor for adding functions to software.

"You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
more specifically Vermont.

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Shelly - 27 Apr 2009 16:35 GMT
> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
> more specifically Vermont.

Is it?  I've always wondered where that phrase came from.  My mom says
it all the time, and my family hasn't been in New England for a couple
hundred years.

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James Silverton - 27 Apr 2009 16:38 GMT
Otto  wrote  on Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:28:39 -0400:

>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> from here."  I often use this as a metaphor for adding
>> functions to software.

> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
> more specifically Vermont.

I've always believed the source was Irish.

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Evan Kirshenbaum - 27 Apr 2009 16:46 GMT
>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
> more specifically Vermont.

And seems to be surprisingly recent.  Ogden Nash wrote a book of that
name in 1957.  I don't see a reference to the joke in the _New York
Times_ before 4/5/1964, although the way it's used there implies that
it's self-conscious.  I can't find any contents of Nash's book, so I
don't know if the joke originated there.

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Chuck Riggs - 28 Apr 2009 09:53 GMT
>>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>it's self-conscious.  I can't find any contents of Nash's book, so I
>don't know if the joke originated there.

That date is in line with my experience. I first heard it from a
fellow student at the University of Virginia in 1964 or 1965.
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Matthew L. Martin - 28 Apr 2009 12:02 GMT
>>>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> That date is in line with my experience. I first heard it from a
> fellow student at the University of Virginia in 1964 or 1965.

Growing up in far nothen New Hampster had me hearing this in the late
fifties.

Matthew (No, not my late fifties)

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Skitt - 27 Apr 2009 19:20 GMT
>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
> more specifically Vermont.

I've heard it used, and I have used it myself, in Seattle.  There are quite
a few places in Seattle that you can see, but you can't get to them, other
than in some circuitous way.  "You can't get there from here" seems to be
quite an applicable expression.
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Otto Bahn - 27 Apr 2009 19:35 GMT
>>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> I've heard it used, and I have used it myself, in Seattle.  There are quite a few places in Seattle that you can see, but you
> can't get to them, other than in some circuitous way.  "You can't get there from here" seems to be quite an applicable expression.

Donner party!

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tony cooper - 27 Apr 2009 19:51 GMT
>> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
>> more specifically Vermont.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>than in some circuitous way.  "You can't get there from here" seems to be
>quite an applicable expression.

It should be the city motto for Boston.

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Chuck Riggs - 28 Apr 2009 09:59 GMT
>>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>than in some circuitous way.  "You can't get there from here" seems to be
>quite an applicable expression.

There are places like that in Boston. Sometimes, driving fast helps,
but more often positioning for a lane change, then an exit, well in
advance is more important.
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John Varela - 28 Apr 2009 22:46 GMT
> >>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> >> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
> >> more specifically Vermont.

I lived in Boston from 1953 to 58, and in a Boston suburb 1960-63.  
I don't know when I first heard that expression; it seems like I've
always known it.

> >I've heard it used, and I have used it myself, in Seattle.  There are quite
> >a few places in Seattle that you can see, but you can't get to them, other
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> but more often positioning for a lane change, then an exit, well in
> advance is more important.

About 40 years ago I was trying to get from Mclean, VA to the old
Twin Bridges Marriott that used to be across Shirley Highway from
the Pentagon.  In trying to take a shortcut I somehow got into the
Pentagon parking lots and couldn't get out again.  At last I drove
up to one of the Pentagon entrances and asked the GIs who were
guarding it for directions.

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Chuck Riggs - 05 Jul 2009 15:47 GMT
>> >>>> There are two places in Durham that have the following sign:
>> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>up to one of the Pentagon entrances and asked the GIs who were
>guarding it for directions.

They don't call it the Puzzle Palace for nothing. Even driving around
it can be hazardous to your mental health, as you say, let alone
making sense of some of DOD's regulations, contracts and so forth.
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the Omrud - 05 Jul 2009 15:53 GMT
>> About 40 years ago I was trying to get from Mclean, VA to the old
>> Twin Bridges Marriott that used to be across Shirley Highway from
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> it can be hazardous to your mental health, as you say, let alone
> making sense of some of DOD's regulations, contracts and so forth.

Way-hey, Chuck's back.  Have you regained permanent Internet access, or
are you just passing by?

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Arcadian Rises - 05 Jul 2009 16:07 GMT
> >> About 40 years ago I was trying to get from Mclean, VA to the old
> >> Twin Bridges Marriott that used to be across Shirley Highway from
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Way-hey, Chuck's back. �Have you regained permanent Internet access, or
> are you just passing by?

Why did he loose it in the first place?

I hope it had nothing to do with parental control.
the Omrud - 05 Jul 2009 16:23 GMT
>>>> About 40 years ago I was trying to get from Mclean, VA to the old
>>>> Twin Bridges Marriott that used to be across Shirley Highway from
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Why did he loose it in the first place?

Oy.

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John Varela - 05 Jul 2009 19:06 GMT
> >About 40 years ago I was trying to get from Mclean, VA to the old
> >Twin Bridges Marriott that used to be across Shirley Highway from
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> it can be hazardous to your mental health, as you say, let alone
> making sense of some of DOD's regulations, contracts and so forth.

Since you're only now responding to posts from April I don't imagine
you'll get around to reading this for several weeks, but welcome
back anyway.

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Chuck Riggs - 06 Jul 2009 11:25 GMT
>> >About 40 years ago I was trying to get from Mclean, VA to the old
>> >Twin Bridges Marriott that used to be across Shirley Highway from
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>you'll get around to reading this for several weeks, but welcome
>back anyway.

I read it this morning, John, and thank you. Due to the huge volume of
posts I hadn't read, there was a large block of posts I simply
downloaded yesterday, then marked read.
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who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland
and usually spells in BrE

Skitt - 06 Jul 2009 18:13 GMT
> "John Varela" wrote:

>> Since you're only now responding to posts from April I don't imagine
>> you'll get around to reading this for several weeks, but welcome
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> posts I hadn't read, there was a large block of posts I simply
> downloaded yesterday, then marked read.

Ah, well, welcome back, then.
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Chuck Riggs - 07 Jul 2009 11:43 GMT
>> "John Varela" wrote:
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>Ah, well, welcome back, then.

Thank you, Skitt. My spirits improved the moment I found out that the
dining hall, which is a pleasant room, is usually available for
patients or for staff too, I suppose, who desire Internet access.
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Glenn Knickerbocker - 28 Apr 2009 06:43 GMT
>"You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
>more specifically Vermont.

I've only ever heard it spoken in an affected Down East accent, as
popularized by Bert and I in 1958 (the year after Nash's book) in the
story "Which Way to Millinocket?":

 http://www.islandportpress.com/BIwhichway.html

Just a glance at all the blue splotches on a map of Maine makes it clear
why it's so hard to find a road from any one place to another there.

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http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/engel.html      --marika5000
Otto Bahn - 28 Apr 2009 16:49 GMT
>>"You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
>>more specifically Vermont.
>
> I've only ever heard it spoken in an affected Down East accent, as
> popularized by Bert and I in 1958 (the year after Nash's book) in the
> story "Which Way to Millinocket?":

Yeah, when I googled it I saw the Bert and I reference.  My
recollections hinted at a contrived meme -- as a child I saw
it in a "You know you're from Vermont If..." type of book and
a cartoon about a Vermont farmer and tourist in Yankee magazine.
But it wasn't something I actually heard, not even in down
east Maine where my brother lives.

>  http://www.islandportpress.com/BIwhichway.html
>
> Just a glance at all the blue splotches on a map of Maine makes it clear
> why it's so hard to find a road from any one place to another there.

Mountain ranges or water make it a plausible thing and probably
explain why the possibly invented phrase took hold to some extent.

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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 28 Apr 2009 23:18 GMT
...

> > There's an old joke about a tourist asking for directions; the local
> > says, "If I wanted to get there, I wouldn't start from here."  I often
> > use this as a metaphor for adding functions to software.

I imagine the Brits are right in saying this an Irish dialect joke
before the New England "Ya cahn't get theah from heah" version.

"Sure and if I wanted to go to Ballyragget, 'tisn't from here I'd be
starting at all!"

> "You can't get there from here" is an alleged New Englandism,
> more specifically Vermont.

Or Maine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_and_I

I didn't hear audio versions of the "Bert and I" stories till the
early '80s, and didn't know they went back to the '50s.

Urban accent:  Say, mister, does this road go to Portland?
Down-east accent:  Nope.  Stays right here.

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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com - 01 May 2009 00:14 GMT
On Apr 28, 4:18 pm, jerry_fried...@yahoo.com wrote:

> ...
>
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_and_I
...

Note to self: Read whole thread before posting.

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Jerry Friedman
Lots42 - 23 Apr 2009 21:19 GMT
> Signs saying
>
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>
> I do not think it means what they think it means.

I've said many times, bosses are like puppies. You have to establish
ground rules or they will pee everywhere and things will be miserable
for all involved.
Prai Jei - 24 Apr 2009 22:42 GMT
dearcilla set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> Signs saying
>
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>
> I do not think it means what they think it means.

Where I used to work the central heating control had this note hung on it:
       DO NOT ADJUST
       THE BOSS
I used to think, about time somebody *did* but nobody would *dare*.
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Mark Edwards - 24 Apr 2009 23:24 GMT
>Where I used to work the central heating control had this note hung on
>it:
>        DO NOT ADJUST
>        THE BOSS
>I used to think, about time somebody *did* but nobody would *dare*.

Where I work, the boss's name is "Tim" (with or without the quotation
marks). One of our clients calls him "Timmy". This is one of those things a
cash client can do that an employee wouldn't dare...

Mark Edwards
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R H Draney - 25 Apr 2009 00:05 GMT
Mark Edwards filted:

>Where I work, the boss's name is "Tim" (with or without the quotation
>marks). One of our clients calls him "Timmy". This is one of those things a
>cash client can do that an employee wouldn't dare...

I don't suppose he pronounces it like this:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UeWB9IwxWI

....r

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Otto Bahn - 24 Apr 2009 23:46 GMT
> dearcilla set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:
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>        THE BOSS
> I used to think, about time somebody *did* but nobody would *dare*.

NO TRESSPASSING

PROSECUTORS WILL
 BE VIOLATED!

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