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Discussion Groups / English Usage / July 2009Sportily raked
Hello: Is this "sportily" BrE? Also, what does "sportily raked" say about a car window? -------- [In their "motor car"] Books with bleached and dog-eared covers were thrown carelessly on the shelf under the sportily raked back window, and there was a touring map of France, much used. The Sea, by John Banville, p. 5 --------  SignatureThanks. Marius Hancu >Hello: > >Is this "sportily" BrE? > >Also, what does "sportily raked" say about a car window? Angled. Hard to find this definition in the dictionary, but: 1. Inclination from the perpendicular: the rake of a jet plane's wings. 2. The angle between the cutting edge of a tool and a plane perpendicular to the working surface to which the tool is applied. >-------- >[In their "motor car"] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >The Sea, by John Banville, p. 5 >-------- SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida > >Also, what does "sportily raked" say about a car window? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >The Sea, by John Banville, p. 5 > >-------- Well, it is, now I see, in the M-W U, but didn't know in which place. Thanks. Marius Hancu >> Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 2. The angle between the cutting edge of a tool and a plane > perpendicular to the working surface to which the tool is applied. BrE cars with sportily raked rear windows used to be called "fast backs". SignatureDavid > > > Hello: > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > BrE cars with sportily raked rear windows used to be called "fast > backs". That terminology is used in the US as well. The early Ford Mustangs had a fastback version, for example. Brian SignatureDay 80 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project > > > > Is this "sportily" BrE? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > That terminology is used in the US as well. The early Ford Mustangs had > a fastback version, for example. Interesting. Thanks. Marius Hancu >>> Hello: >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >BrE cars with sportily raked rear windows used to be called "fast backs". The Ford Anglia would have to be called a "slow back": http://www.rallye-info.com/images/photos/misc/2006eifel/740/Ford%20Anglia%20105E %20-%20M1.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/dl9pjs SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) On Apr 23, 7:51 pm, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:41:45 GMT, the Omrud > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The Ford Anglia would have to be called a "slow back":http://www.rallye-info.com/images/photos/misc/2006eifel/740/Ford%20An... > orhttp://tinyurl.com/dl9pjs Wow, that's a great pic:-) Indeed slow. Marius Hancu > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The Sea, by John Banville, p. 5 > -------- The reference is to a motor car, but since the book is titled "The Sea" you might want to look at the raked masts at http://images.google.com/images?q=%22raked%20mast%22&oe=utf-8&client =firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&t ab=wi http://preview.tinyurl.com/cnsz2x SignatureJohn Varela Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email > The reference is to a motor car, but since the book is titled "The > Sea" you might want to look at the raked masts at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/cnsz2x I wasn't aware there's so much "raking" go on:-) Thanks. Marius Hancu >> The reference is to a motor car, but since the book is titled "The >> Sea" you might want to look at the raked masts at [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I wasn't aware there's so much "raking" go on:-) There is a theatrical rake[1]: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_(theatre)> In this case "rake" refers to a deviation from the horizontal rather than from the vertical as with the ship's masts. [1] Not to be confused with the opera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rake%27s_Progress SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in alt.usage.english) > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The Sea, by John Banville, p. 5 > -------- Everybody's raked over "rake" now, so I'll just mention that a couple of weeks ago I saw a crash test on TV, in which stopping sharply from 30 m.p.h. was enough to send a soft-covered UK road atlas from the back shelf straight through the windscreen. I no longer use the back shelf. SignatureMike. > Everybody's raked over "rake" now, so I'll just mention that a couple of > weeks ago I saw a crash test on TV, in which stopping sharply from 30 > m.p.h. was enough to send a soft-covered UK road atlas from the back > shelf straight through the windscreen. I no longer use the back shelf. I have never left anything loose in my car - I shudder when I see cars with umbrellas and other weapons thrown carelessly onto the rear shelf. SignatureDavid >> Everybody's raked over "rake" now, so I'll just mention that a couple of >> weeks ago I saw a crash test on TV, in which stopping sharply from 30 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I have never left anything loose in my car - I shudder when I see cars > with umbrellas and other weapons thrown carelessly onto the rear shelf. Nodding dog decapitates emergency braker. SignatureLes (BrE) >> Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >m.p.h. was enough to send a soft-covered UK road atlas from the back >shelf straight through the windscreen. I no longer use the back shelf. Taking about the things you sometimes see on the back shelf of a car, I wonder if anyone has been killed by a first-aid kit. SignatureJames >>> Hello: >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Taking about the things you sometimes see on the back shelf of a >car, I wonder if anyone has been killed by a first-aid kit. My wife has a hat on the back shelf. It's brightly colored man's hat that someone left in the lobby of the place where she works. The function of the hat is to allow her to spot which silver four-door sedan, in a row of silver four-door sedans, is hers. I don't think it could cause damage. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>> Hello: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >sedan, in a row of silver four-door sedans, is hers. I don't think it >could cause damage. Haven't you seen Goldfinger? SignatureJames >>>> Hello: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >sedan, in a row of silver four-door sedans, is hers. I don't think it >could cause damage. A faulty electrical outlet, lightening from the sky, a loose brick from a building or a drunk driver might have struck and killed me as I walked or drove down a road. Not so far. Those are only a fraction of ordinary dangers we face almost daily, but I'm not going to get an ulcer worrying about them. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE,lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE Mike Lyle: > Everybody's raked over "rake" now, so I'll just mention that a couple of > weeks ago I saw a crash test on TV, in which stopping sharply from 30 > m.p.h. was enough to send a soft-covered UK road atlas from the back > shelf straight through the windscreen. I'm surprised by this. Mythbusters did an episode in 2005 where they tested the lethality of various objects on the rear shelf in a 45 mph crash. The experiment title was "Killer Tissue Box", after the claim that a box of tissues (TrademarkAbuserE: kleenex) could be lethal. Obviously a sufficiently heavy or sharp object can kill you in that situation -- groceries have done it -- but for the tissue box the answer was no, and I would have thought the road atlas would be in the same weight class. Also, "stopping sharply" isn't anything like crashing. Did you really mean "stopping sharply"? Here's the best description I could find online of the Mythbusters episode: http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/08/mythbusters_killer_tissue_box.html While searching for it, I came across a site that if I read it correctly claims that the Discovery Channel -- I presume this means the US version -- will be repeating the episode at 10 am -- don't ask me what time zone -- on Sunday, May 3. > I no longer use the back shelf. Well, that's just common sense. But it may not be sufficient. There was a case in recent weeks where a woman was killed in a crash by a laptop computer believed to have been on the back *seat*. Best to not use these "car" things at all. SignatureMark Brader, Toronto | There is no step function between "safe" and "unsafe". msb@vex.net | -- Jeff Janes My text in this article is in the public domain. > Mike Lyle: >> Everybody's raked over "rake" now, so I'll just mention that a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Also, "stopping sharply" isn't anything like crashing. Did you really > mean "stopping sharply"? No: the meiosis was injudicious, and what I saw was a proper crash test. And the atlas really did go through the windscreen. > Here's the best description I could find online of the Mythbusters > episode: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Well, that's just common sense. Well, yes. But I'd never thought it mattered with lightweight things. > But it may not be sufficient. There > was a case in recent weeks where a woman was killed in a crash by a > laptop computer believed to have been on the back *seat*. > > Best to not use these "car" things at all. The prog I'm referring to showed a box of tools come crashing through from the boot: it said you should at least fasten the rear seat belts even when there's nobody on them. Loose objects should go in the footwell, they said. SignatureMike. > Mike Lyle: [...] > > I no longer use the back shelf. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Best to not use these "car" things at all. Dear Brader, I often travel with a large cargo net draped across the rear (or after) seat wells (or seatwell) of my 309 (4-be-2 in oldmoney). Am I safe from capture in the event of a crash or other sudden deceleration? Concerned, -- VB >> Mike Lyle: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Concerned, Dear Concerned, You will never be captured if you arrange to always crash when nobody else is around to capture you, particularly a police. SignatureAunty Dorothy >>> Mike Lyle: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >You will never be captured if you arrange to always crash when nobody >else is around to capture you, particularly a police. Is "a police" in other members' vernacular, as opposed to "a cop" or "a policeman"? SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE >>>> Mike Lyle: >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Is "a police" in other members' vernacular, as opposed to "a cop" or >"a policeman"? Maybe the thread on Baltimore vs New York usage of "a police" was only in AEU and was not cross-posted. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England > > Is "a police" in other members' vernacular, as opposed to "a cop" or > > "a policeman"? > > Maybe the thread on Baltimore vs New York usage of "a police" was only > in AEU and was not cross-posted. There was some discussion of this in AUE. I don't recall specifically a comparison of Baltimore and New York usage. I did post in some thread that I'd encountered the use of "two police" in the TV show "The Unusuals", which is set in New York. Brian SignatureDay 85 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project >> > Is "a police" in other members' vernacular, as opposed to "a cop" or >> > "a policeman"? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Brian In any case, I don't recall seeing the thread. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE > >> > Is "a police" in other members' vernacular, as opposed to "a cop" or > >> > "a policeman"? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hey, welcome back! Your re-entrance seems like a natural sequence to yesterday's fireworks. >> >> > Is "a police" in other members' vernacular, as opposed to "a cop" or >> >> > "a policeman"? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Your re-entrance seems like a natural sequence to yesterday's >fireworks. At my fieriest I could never compete with the display over the Potomac River. SignatureRegards, Chuck Riggs, who speaks AmE, lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE |
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