Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion GroupsEnglish UsageBritish EnglishESL Teaching
Learnglish.com
Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map

Discussion Groups / English Usage / May 2009



Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Today's "Arrrgh!"

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
tony cooper - 01 May 2009 19:30 GMT
In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
saying he used an "arm bar" to take the suspect down and "re-direct
her to the ground".

Signature

Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

tinwhistler - 01 May 2009 21:13 GMT
> In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
> over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Here is a link for the story:
http://tinyurl.com/dbxog7
The woman was 20 years of age and autistic.  Escaping the arm bar and
then running away she was tased, or tasered, twice, but still managed
to board a bus and elude police at the scene.  Quite a Houdini, given
her autism.
--
Aloha ~~~ Ozzie Maland ~~~ San Diego
tony cooper - 01 May 2009 21:54 GMT
>> In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
>> over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>to board a bus and elude police at the scene.  Quite a Houdini, given
>her autism.

I wasn't commenting on the incident, but - rather - on the usage of
"re-direct her to the ground" in place of "threw her on the ground".

She's a big girl, so she was more like the "Hulk" than "Houdini".

I'm questioning my own use of "suspect".  She was a suspect in the
sense that she was being taken in for assault on her mother and had
not yet been charged, but I'm not sure that this is the best word.  I
suppose it would have been better to have written "...restraining of a
person,...".

Signature

Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Jeffrey Turner - 02 May 2009 16:13 GMT
>>> In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
>>> over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> suppose it would have been better to have written "...restraining of a
> person,...".

"an (or the) alleged assailant"?

But I think suspect does fine.  Especially given that alleged was used
already in the sentence.

--Jeff

Signature

The comfort of the wealthy has always
depended upon an abundant supply of
the poor. --Voltaire

Dr Peter Young - 01 May 2009 22:28 GMT
> In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
> over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
> saying he used an "arm bar" to take the suspect down and "re-direct
> her to the ground".

Almost as good, in the British media at any rate, as "extended (or
sometimes "alternative") interrogation techniques" to describe what in
Standard English is known as "torture".

With best wishes,

Peter.

Signature

Peter Young, (BrE), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Attending Anesthesiologist)     Now happily retired.
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk

Raymond O'Hara - 01 May 2009 23:54 GMT
>> In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
>> over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Peter.

Here it's "enhanced" interrogation techniques.
Steve Hayes - 02 May 2009 04:31 GMT
>>> In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
>>> over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Here it's "enhanced" interrogation techniques.

I thought "enhanced" had been skunked ever since the computer industry brought
out the "enhanced" keybroad that was more difficult to use than the standard
one, and seemed to be especially designed to slow down working (function keys
on top instead of on the left, for example).

Signature

Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Robert Lieblich - 02 May 2009 00:17 GMT
> > In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
> > over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> sometimes "alternative") interrogation techniques" to describe what in
> Standard English is known as "torture".

In the US the standard phrase for this is "enhanced interrogation."
And to think that "enhanced" used to evoke (for me, anyway) mental
images of the female breast.

Signature

Bob Lieblich
Deathly afraid that this is going to turn into a torture thread

tony cooper - 02 May 2009 00:54 GMT
>> > In a newspaper article today about a police officer's alleged
>> > over-enthusiastic restraining of a suspect, the officer is quoted as
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>And to think that "enhanced" used to evoke (for me, anyway) mental
>images of the female breast.

Unenhanced breasts start to re-direct to the ground.

Signature

Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Robert Lieblich - 02 May 2009 02:13 GMT
> On Fri, 01 May 2009 19:17:56 -0400, Robert Lieblich

[ ... ]

> >In the US the standard phrase for this is "enhanced interrogation."
> >And to think that "enhanced" used to evoke (for me, anyway) mental
> >images of the female breast.
>
> Unenhanced breasts start to re-direct to the ground.

Does the process required a police officer?

Signature

Bob Lieblich
Getting all confoozled again

Mike Lyle - 02 May 2009 21:29 GMT
[...]

(In sig)
> Bob Lieblich
> Deathly afraid that this is going to turn into a torture thread

Don't worry: just tell us what we want to hear and it won't.

Signature

Mike.

Robert Bannister - 02 May 2009 23:34 GMT
> In the US the standard phrase for this is "enhanced interrogation."
> And to think that "enhanced" used to evoke (for me, anyway) mental
> images of the female breast.

Remembering of course, that it is quite normal for men to get mental
images of female breasts at almost any time.
Signature


Rob Bannister

 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2012 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.