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Hauke Reddmann - 03 May 2009 16:14 GMT
Just for fun - please name me a word
...a...e...iously since all the vowels are sorted
alphabetically :-)
As a German, I can't do a "mind dictionary search".
Is "facetiously" a legit word? (Legit not in the
sense it makes grammatic sense, but that you could
use it in everyday talk.)

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the Omrud - 03 May 2009 16:30 GMT
> Just for fun - please name me a word
> ....a...e...iously since all the vowels are sorted
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sense it makes grammatic sense, but that you could
> use it in everyday talk.)

Yes, and it's the standard answer to this question.  The only other
common one is abstemiously.

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Mark Brader - 03 May 2009 17:04 GMT
Hauke Reddmann:
> > Is "facetiously" a legit word? (Legit not in the
> > sense it makes grammatic sense, but that you could
> > use it in everyday talk.)

"David":
> Yes, and it's the standard answer to this question.

Agreed.

> The only other common one is abstemiously.

It's not so much an everyday word, though.  A lot of people wouldn't
use it, people who might use "facetiously".  Another word with the
same vowel property is "abstentiously"; but I don't think I've ever
seen it used.
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Egbert White - 05 May 2009 20:12 GMT
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>> The only other common one is abstemiously.
>
>It's not so much an everyday word, though.  A lot of people wouldn't
>use it, people who might use "facetiously".  Another word with the
>same vowel property is "abstentiously"; but I don't think I've ever
>seen it used.

Can anyone give an example of a common adjective ending in "-ious"
that cannot be converted to an adverb by adding "-ly."  How can anyone
say that "facetiously" and "abstemiously" are the only ones when
"laboriously" and "cautiously" are only two of probably hundreds
fitting the pattern.

"Suspiciously," "ceremoniously," "egregiously," "euphoniously,"
"luxuriously," "mendaciously," "obsequiously," ... and so on far into
the night.  
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 05 May 2009 20:33 GMT
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>
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>"laboriously" and "cautiously" are only two of probably hundreds
>fitting the pattern.

The pattern is as shown in the OP:

   ...a...e...iously

that is with each of the five vowels used once and in alphabetical
order.

That is the basis of the statement: '"facetiously" and "abstemiously"
are the only ones'.

>"Suspiciously," "ceremoniously," "egregiously," "euphoniously,"
>"luxuriously," "mendaciously," "obsequiously," ... and so on far into
>the night.  

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Mark Brader - 06 May 2009 01:55 GMT
Peter Duncanson:
> The pattern is as shown in the OP:
>
>     ...a...e...iously
>
> that is with each of the five vowels used once and in alphabetical
> order.

Six.

(The original posting just said "all the vowels".)
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Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 06 May 2009 09:31 GMT
>Peter Duncanson:
>> The pattern is as shown in the OP:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Six.

OK. I can't count.

>(The original posting just said "all the vowels".)

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Egbert White - 06 May 2009 20:10 GMT
>Peter Duncanson:
>> The pattern is as shown in the OP:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>(The original posting just said "all the vowels".)

But they taught me in school that 'y' is only sometimes a vowel.  You
might say 'six' on Friday, then discover that in that week 'y' was
only a vowel on Tuesday.

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Egbert White - 06 May 2009 21:01 GMT
>><snip>
>>
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>That is the basis of the statement: '"facetiously" and "abstemiously"
>are the only ones'.

Thank you.  Then I'll mention the following from
<http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/gswithenbank/wordtriv.htm>:

| Abstemious, abstentious, adventitious, aerious,
| annelidous, arsenious, arterious, caesious and facetious
| are all words with all five vowels in order. If you count
| 'y' as a vowel, -ly can be added to most of them to get
| all six vowels.

But the only one of them that I would call at all common is
'adventitious,' and that doesn't quite work because there are two
'i's.

I like "annelidous" because it's the only one that doesn't end with
the monotonous '-ious,' but I don't find it in a couple of big
dictionaries.  Come to think of it, when this subject came up in AUE
years ago, didn't someone come up with one that didn't end in '-ous'?

Google Groups doesn't find any such, but it finds a mention of
'ambidextrously,' which almost works.  It has each vowel only once,
but they're not quite in order, but 'ambidextrously' may be notable
for being the longest word with no letter occurring more than once.
(<http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4044>)
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James Hogg - 06 May 2009 21:32 GMT
>>><snip>
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>for being the longest word with no letter occurring more than once.
>(<http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4044>)

There's also "anemious", defined by the OED as "Of plants: Windy,
i.e. growing in windy and exposed situations."

Need I say it's labelled "rare" (in the sense of infrequent)?

The OED also has acerbitous and affectious.

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