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Marius Hancu - 05 May 2009 08:10 GMT
Hello:

Does this "contestable" mean "able/feasible to be
attempted/endeavored/striven for?"

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[The boys at this school can't go out for exercise so easily at this
time of the year]

By this stage of the year -- exercise no longer contestable five days a
week -- the road was empty;

A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6
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Marius Hancu

Don Phillipson - 05 May 2009 13:13 GMT
> Does this "contestable" mean "able/feasible to be
> attempted/endeavored/striven for?"
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6
> ------

"No longer contestable" here means the school strictly
enforced its rule requiring "exercise" five days a week.
This was normal in boarding schools of the period.  (At
mine, if your name was not listed for one of the football
teams, and you could not find a partner for squash or
fives, you had to run a circuit of approx. four miles --
every day except Sunday.)

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
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CDB - 05 May 2009 14:01 GMT
> Does this "contestable" mean "able/feasible to be
> attempted/endeavored/striven for?" ------
> [The boys at this school can't go out for exercise so easily at this
> time of the year]

> By this stage of the year -- exercise no longer contestable five
> days a week -- the road was empty;

> A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6
> ------

Possibly "debatable", as per the OneLook 1828 and 1913 Webster's.
There was no convincing case to be made for it.
Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 05 May 2009 15:05 GMT
>> Does this "contestable" mean "able/feasible to be
>> attempted/endeavored/striven for?" ------
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Possibly "debatable", as per the OneLook 1828 and 1913 Webster's.
>There was no convincing case to be made for it.

I'm with Don in thinking it is the reverse: there was no convincing case
to be made against it.

The road was empty meaning that the boys could go for the normal run.
There was no traffic so there was no basis for arguing that the run
should be cancelled.

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Peter Duncanson, UK
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CDB - 05 May 2009 15:42 GMT
>>> Does this "contestable" mean "able/feasible to be
>>> attempted/endeavored/striven for?" ------
>>> [The boys at this school can't go out for exercise so easily at
>>> this time of the year]

>>> By this stage of the year -- exercise no longer contestable five
>>> days a week -- the road was empty;

>>> A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6
>>> ------

>> Possibly "debatable", as per the OneLook 1828 and 1913 Webster's.
>> There was no convincing case to be made for it.

> I'm with Don in thinking it is the reverse: there was no convincing
> case to be made against it.

> The road was empty meaning that the boys could go for the normal
> run. There was no traffic so there was no basis for arguing that
> the run should be cancelled.

That makes sense.  I suppose the comment in brackets, [The boys at
this school can't go out for exercise so easily at this time of the
year], was Marius's interpretation, then, and not a report of what the
author had said.
Paul Wolff - 05 May 2009 16:37 GMT
>Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>year], was Marius's interpretation, then, and not a report of what the
>author had said.

The time was December, when it would be dark by four-thirty, the fields
were sodden, and the weather was misty.  At my school, at the end of the
winter term, any football games that still needed to be played were
played in the mornings.  The narrator was walking back from an
expedition to the High Street when Widmerpool loomed up through the
dusk.  "Widmerpool was known to go voluntarily 'for a run' by himself
every afternoon. This was his return from trotting across the plough in
drizzle that had been falling since early school."

The overall sense must be that exercise was no longer compulsory Monday
to Friday.  The road was empty because passengers didn't go out if they
could avoid it.  The year was early 1920s, and there wouldn't have been
much motor traffic there at that time (in Eton, a village on a road to
nowhere across the Thames from Windsor).

I suggest that "no longer contestable" means "out of the question".
Unless you are Widmerpool, that is; and the fact that Widmerpool chooses
to run in such conditions tells you something of his character.
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