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Discussion Groups / English Usage / May 2009Blue-chinned
Hello: I don't get the connotation/meaning of "blue-chinned." ------ The room contained two late eighteenth-century coloured prints of racehorses (Trimalchio and the Pharisee, with blue-chinned jockeys) [...] A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6 ------  SignatureThanks. Marius Hancu > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The room contained two late eighteenth-century coloured prints of > racehorses (Trimalchio and the Pharisee, with blue-chinned jockeys) [...] I can only guess that it's very cold where the race is taking place. Severe cold makes your face go blue. SignatureDavid > Hello: > > I don't get the connotation/meaning of "blue-chinned." Unshaven, with stubble (I think). See 'five o'clock shadow'. >> I don't get the connotation/meaning of "blue-chinned." > Unshaven, with stubble (I think). See 'five o'clock shadow'. And maybe some connotation of lower class or foreignness? Small dark-whiskered persons? I think I remember Orwell making a distinction between the tall blond upper and short dark lower classes. > > > I don't get the connotation/meaning of "blue-chinned." > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > dark-whiskered persons? I think I remember Orwell making a > distinction between the tall blond upper and short dark lower classes. Probably. From what I remember of Powell (pron. 'Pole') he couldn't wait to find some point of class distinction and then worry at it like a rabid beagle. I'm not a fan. DC -- >>>> I don't get the connotation/meaning of "blue-chinned." >>> Unshaven, with stubble (I think). See 'five o'clock shadow'. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > DC I thought the connotation might be of toughness, although I can see how that might shade over into class. A man who looks 'blue-chinned' because he has dark beard stubble just beginning to show is tough, manly - but maybe a thug. I don't think of jockeys as thugs, but if I were asked about blue-chinned men out of that context, I'd think of the kind of thugs who hire themselves out as enforcers. Cheryl > > > > > I don't get the connotation/meaning of "blue-chinned." > > > > Unshaven, with stubble (I think). See 'five o'clock shadow'. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Cheryl For me it's more Fred Flintstone. DC -- >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6 >------ It's a common way of referring to a male who has noticeable beard stubble but is not in the process of growing a beard. I don't see any particular connection to jockeys, though. The author might have been connecting it with age, though. These were jockeys old enough to shave, and not teenagers. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 6 >------ Does this help? It's a print after a painting of the horse Lurcher by George Stubbs. http://www.intaglio-fine-art.com/images/trk176i.jpg It seems to me that jockeys in those old stylised racing prints all looked much alike, and a bluish chin might be a memorable aspect of the way they tended to be portrayed. SignaturePaul |
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