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Discussion Groups / English Usage / May 2009One of the wheels had buckled
Hello: When a wheel buckles, it is about a broken axle (which I think it is) or about a blown tire? ---- [They had a car accident, and are in a ditch] [...] and, as one of the wheels had buckled, the car clearly could not be driven back that night. A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 135 -------  SignatureThanks. Marius Hancu >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >[...] and, as one of the wheels had buckled, the car clearly could not >be driven back that night. Mark me down for broken axle. >A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 135 >------- SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mark me down for broken axle. I should think "buckled" is being used in the sense of the steel wheel wheel itself being bent or dented. That would undoubtably cause the tire to go flat but the damage is more than a mere flat tire - the wheel itself would be unusable. If the axle was involved, I'd think the reference would be to the axle being buckled (or broken) and not to the wheel. >>>Hello: >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >If the axle was involved, I'd think the reference would be to the axle >being buckled (or broken) and not to the wheel. I've seen a car with a busted axle. The wheel sits at a pronounced angle, and "buckled" aptly describes the appearance. A damaged wheel (rim, actually) doesn't give that impression. Here's an image of the buckled appearance. The rim isn't damaged. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2581011961_8022ed1f33.jpg?v=0 SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >>>>Hello: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >angle, and "buckled" aptly describes the appearance. A damaged wheel >(rim, actually) doesn't give that impression. I was once driving a car at 100+ mph when a tyre burst. The wheel was buckled. In fact it looked octagonal, and was unusable. There was nothing wrong with the axle. If the axle was damaged, I would say it was bent, not buckled, unless it had at leasty two bends in it, giving it a wavy appearance. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk >>>>Hello: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Here's an image of the buckled appearance. The rim isn't damaged. > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2581011961_8022ed1f33.jpg?v=0 The rim isn't damaged, so it's a bent or broken axle or suspension wishbone. > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Thanks. > Marius Hancu If he had said "axle buckled", then I would know. I do not know. _______ http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/wish.ogg "You can make my wish come true." does not come through as clearly as it could, and I will fix that, because my ringtone provider is not coming through. >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 135 >------- No, it means that one of the wheels was bent and buckled. Instead of being round, it was sort of wavy. That is something that any dictionary should tell you -- it's not a matter of usage, simply the meaning of the word. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk > Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > [...] and, as one of the wheels had buckled, the car clearly could not > be driven back that night. I read that the metal of the wheel itself has become distorted. We're probably not thinking of modern single-piece wheels here, but the older design which has a rim and spokes, like a modern push-bike wheel. If the spokes are damaged or lose tension, the rim will buckle under the weight of the car. If it said "the bicycle's front wheel had buckled" would that cause you any problem? SignatureDavid Hello: > > When a wheel buckles, it is about a broken axle (which I think it is) or > > about a blown tire? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the spokes are damaged or lose tension, the rim will buckle under the > weight of the car. Thank you all. Marius Hancu >Marius Hancu wrote: >> Hello: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >If it said "the bicycle's front wheel had buckled" would that cause you >any problem? That's right. A buckled wheel is one that is so damaged that it's no longer circular. Ride a push-bike into a wall, or lay it down flat and stamp on the wheel-rim, and a buckled wheel is a likely result (independently of what might happen to the forks supporting it). SignaturePaul >That's right. A buckled wheel is one that is so damaged that it's no >longer circular. Ride a push-bike into a wall, or lay it down flat and >stamp on the wheel-rim, and a buckled wheel is a likely result >(independently of what might happen to the forks supporting it). There's a brief shot of what looks like a buckled wheel about 45 seconds into that mind-boggling video posted by Bert Lund Hansen last week, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ > On Mon, 11 May 2009 10:40:59 +0100, Paul Wolff > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > seconds into that mind-boggling video posted by Bert Lund Hansen last > week,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o Thanks. Nice music. Marius Hancu [...] > There's a brief shot of what looks like a buckled wheel about 45 > seconds into that mind-boggling video posted by Bert Lund Hansen last > week, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o Gosh! When my son worked at Halford's he used to bring home videos like that, but stunts which wowed us back then would seem pretty tame by comparison. SignatureMike. >[...] >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >that, but stunts which wowed us back then would seem pretty tame by >comparison. Once I'd got over the bogglement, I enjoyed spotting the different locations in and around Edinburgh. SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ >> [...] >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Once I'd got over the bogglement, I enjoyed spotting the different > locations in and around Edinburgh. I understand the tricks are actually done by youngsters from circus families, rather than real shtreet hoodlets. SignatureMike. >>> [...] >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I understand the tricks are actually done by youngsters from circus >families, rather than real shtreet hoodlets. Perhaps, but maybe not in this case. http://www.dannymacaskill.co.uk/biography.php SignatureKaty Jennison spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ >>>> [...] >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Perhaps, but maybe not in this case. > http://www.dannymacaskill.co.uk/biography.php A far cry from the Isle of Skye! SignatureMike. >> Hello: >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >the spokes are damaged or lose tension, the rim will buckle under the >weight of the car. Pressed steel wheels buckle under certain circumstances. Mag wheels tend to crack or break under similar circumstances. SignatureSteve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk Marius Hancu wrote... > When a wheel buckles, it is about a broken axle (which I think it > is) or about a blown tire? > [They had a car accident, and are in a ditch] > > [...] and, as one of the wheels had buckled, the car clearly could > not be driven back that night. > > A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 135 This is much more likely to refer to wire wheels like http://www.silogic.com/MGB/124-2480_IMG.JPG . When a wheel has buckled, the axis of the hub no longer coincides with the axis of the rim. Driving into a ditch is a common way of achieving this. SignatureNoel >Hello: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >A Dance to the Music of Time, Spring, by Anthony Powell, p. 135 >------- It may be that the car at that time had spoked wheels, like a bicycle. They were fairly common some decades ago, and are an expensive option on some high-performance cars today. "Buckling", for such wheels, means that the spokes have become bent or broken and the wheel unusable. It may have been caused by a broken axle, or simply hitting the ditch at some speed. SignatureRobin (BrE) Herts, England |
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