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Blake: Holy Thursday

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Marius Hancu - 18 May 2009 07:37 GMT
Hello:

"Or like harmonious thunderings the seats of heaven among:"
seems to me to mean:
"Or like harmonious thunderings among the seats of heaven"

Still, seems a rare permutation.

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Now like a mighty wind they raise to heaven the voice of song,
Or like harmonious thunderings the seats of heaven among:
Beneath them sit the aged men, wise guardians of the poor.
Then cherish pity, lest you drive and angel from your door.

Holy Thursday
by William Blake, p. 61
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu

Peter Duncanson (BrE) - 18 May 2009 12:08 GMT
>Hello:
>
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>
>Still, seems a rare permutation.

It's a desperate attempt to get "among" to the end of the line to match
"song" at the end of the previous line. If pronounced suitably, "among"
and "song" can be made to rhyme.

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>Now like a mighty wind they raise to heaven the voice of song,
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>by William Blake, p. 61
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Peter Duncanson, UK
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Marius.Hancu@gmail.com - 18 May 2009 15:14 GMT
On May 18, 7:08 am, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:

> >"Or like harmonious thunderings the seats of heaven among:"
> >seems to me to mean:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> "song" at the end of the previous line. If pronounced suitably, "among"
> and "song" can be made to rhyme.

That's what I thought.

Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Prai Jei - 18 May 2009 22:18 GMT
Marius Hancu set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> Hello:
>
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> by William Blake, p. 61
> ---------

Many examples of postpositions can be found among such verse. The Scottish
Metrical Psalter a great propensity shows, the words to reorder the metre
to fit, most familiarly:
       The Lord's my shepherd: I'll not want.,
          He makes me down to lie.
       In pastures green, he leadeth me
          The quiet waters by.
They say you shouldn't use a preposition to end a sentence with. But what
about ending a sentence a postposition using? Is this really legit grammar
at all?
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the Omrud - 18 May 2009 22:53 GMT
> Marius Hancu set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> about ending a sentence a postposition using? Is this really legit grammar
> at all?

They also say (or they ought to if they don't) that you shouldn't a full
stop in the middle of a sentence plonk.  All mangled the meaning is,
that punctuation by.

</Yoda>

    The Lord's my shepherd
    I'll not want
    He makes me down to lie in pastures green
    He leadeth me the quiet waters by

Take it back to God's native language:

    The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
    he leadeth me beside the still waters.

Hmm, perhaps it should be:
- He makes me down to lie pastures green in

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Arcadian Rises - 19 May 2009 04:43 GMT
> > Marius Hancu set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> > continuum:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

"He maketh me green pastures to lie down in" where the first five
words are a poetic expression  of the universal transformation of
energy.
Athel Cornish-Bowden - 19 May 2009 09:36 GMT
> Marius Hancu set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> about ending a sentence a postposition using? Is this really legit grammar
> at all?

I'd say it's legitimate in poetry: poets don't have to obey all the
usual rules.
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athel

John Holmes - 23 May 2009 03:31 GMT
> Many examples of postpositions can be found among such verse. The
> Scottish Metrical Psalter a great propensity shows, the words to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> what about ending a sentence a postposition using? Is this really
> legit grammar at all?

Dunno, but if you can understand it, it gives you a bit of a head start
in learning German. Perhaps it is a survival in verse of the word orders
permitted in older, more Germanic, English.

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