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"Prom" versus "The Prom"

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JoAnne Schmitz - 27 May 2009 19:12 GMT
I decided to read the teen novel _Twilight_ over vacation.  In it, several
of the characters refer to "going to prom."

When I was of an age to care, I would have said "going to *the* prom."
But, now that I pay attention, I do occasionally hear it referred to
without the definite article.

Is this a regional difference or a change over time, I wonder?  The author
is from Utah.  Is there a larger pattern of eliminating the definite
article in common phrases?

Google hit counts suggest that including the article is significantly more
common, but not universal.  

"go to the prom":  5,610,000 hits
"go to prom":  279,000 hits.

Two of the first-page "go to prom" hits are newspaper speak, e.g. "Go to
Prom, Get Suspended, School Says," so I wouldn't really count those.

-JoAnne

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james - 27 May 2009 20:30 GMT
>I decided to read the teen novel _Twilight_ over vacation.  In it, several
>of the characters refer to "going to prom."
>
>When I was of an age to care, I would have said "going to *the* prom."
>But, now that I pay attention, I do occasionally hear it referred to
>without the definite article.

A most enjoyable part of my youth were the nights in sleeping bags with
other youths outside London's Albert Hall during the Proms. I nearly had
my first real sexual experience with a girl on the pavement one night
but she woke up and created a fearful fuss.

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Mike Page - 29 May 2009 10:35 GMT
>> I decided to read the teen novel _Twilight_ over vacation.  In it,
>> several
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> my first real sexual experience with a girl on the pavement one night
> but she woke up and created a fearful fuss.

Perhaps you were trying to go allegro when she would have preferred
andante ma non troppo.

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John Holmes - 28 May 2009 10:07 GMT
> Google hit counts suggest that including the article is significantly
> more common, but not universal.
>
> "go to the prom":  5,610,000 hits
> "go to prom":  279,000 hits.

It's always "the Prom" in my experience, especially amongst those who
know and love it:
http://is.gd/I0YB

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Tasha Miller - 28 May 2009 15:07 GMT
> I decided to read the teen novel _Twilight_ over vacation.  In it,
> several of the characters refer to "going to prom."
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> to Prom, Get Suspended, School Says," so I wouldn't really count
> those.

I'm from the wrong country but I have children who have recently been going
through their final years at school. They jokingly refer to their Year 12
Formals as Prom and I think dropping the 'the' is a fairly recent
development but must be quite common, given it's made its way through
popular culture to Australia.
Cece - 28 May 2009 16:33 GMT
On May 28, 9:07 am, "Tasha Miller" <tashamill...@gEEEmail.com.invalid>
wrote:
> > I decided to read the teen novel _Twilight_ over vacation.  In it,
> > several of the characters refer to "going to prom."
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

In the U.S., the only use of "prom" I know is: a formal dancing party
for teenagers, one for juniors in high school (the eleventh year of
formal schooling) and one for seniors.  These are "the Junior Prom"
and "the Senior Prom."  Evening gowns, corsages, live music, the whole
works.  They have been less formal from time to time (especially in
the '70s), but they seem to be getting more formal than they used to
be.  Kids are renting limousines now, and continuing the party till
dawn.
Tasha Miller - 29 May 2009 02:47 GMT
> On May 28, 9:07 am, "Tasha Miller" <tashamill...@gEEEmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> be.  Kids are renting limousines now, and continuing the party till
> dawn.

My daughter's Formal (dance) is in a few weeks and I was told this week that
a 12-seater limousine will be turning up at our house. Corsages aren't the
norm here but suits and evening and cocktail or tea length dresses suits
are. I have to admit I am looking forward to seeing them all 'scrubbed up' -
especially the boys. Most of those slouch around in hoodies and droopy
jeans, hair in tousled disarray with varying amounts of bum-fluff adorning
their faces, so I expect to hardly recognise a couple of them.

My daughter isn't a 'girly girl' so we're avoiding the excesses of
horrendously expensive pre-dance spray tan and make up sessions some girls
think are necessary. She is undecided on whether she'll book a hair
appointment because she doesn't want an up do and my inadequate skills are
equal to putting some curl into her long tresses. The Dress was fairly
expensive according to my standards but apparently a new handbag and shoes
are not necessary. I gather this is a very unusual attitude for a 17 year
old so consider myself blessed to be getting through this without spending a
small country's budget on her finery.  As a matter of principle and to
retain my standing as a committed Mean Mum the limousine is coming out of
her wages from her part time job. The only question to be answered now is
where the after-party will be and will it be at our house, as it often seems
to be. I have mixed feelings on this because while my daughter is right and
it definitely isn't her turn, I do quite like to know the supervision is
going to be adequate and am willing to put myself out a fair bit to have
that comfort.

(Oops, far too much information! Oh well, it's a little slice of life from
an Australian mother of teenagers.)
 
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